"Calling out fighters" needs to be improved

[Britkid]

BTW..... yet another reason why huge W-L and undefeated records..... nowadays..... are absolutely worthless.

I can agree with a lot of what you wrote, because it is merely wishful thinking, that we all sometimes have. But that last statement is silly, and you know it.

That huge undefeated record has made Wilder's team very wealthy. It is very worthwhile, and always has been in Heavyweight boxing. If you can fight four 90/10 fights for a Million Dollars each, why risk the '0' in even a 60/40 fight unless you are going to get paid tens of Millions?!

[TitoFan]

BTW..... yet another reason why huge W-L and undefeated records..... nowadays..... are absolutely worthless.

I can agree with a lot of what you wrote, because it is merely wishful thinking, that we all sometimes have. But that last statement is silly, and you know it.

That huge undefeated record has made Wilder's team very wealthy. It is very worthwhile, and always has been in Heavyweight boxing. If you can fight four 90/10 fights for a Million Dollars each, why risk the '0' in even a 60/40 fight unless you are going to get paid tens of Millions?!

I should have specified "worthless to FANS".

A lot of time and space is devoted on these forums to the fighters' finances. How much they make..... how much they have made.... how much they will make..... etc. I'm among the very small minority that couldn't care less how much a fighter makes or doesn't make. I'm saying Deontay's W-L record is worthless to ME..... because it fails to measure exactly how good Wilder is when compared to past HW champions.

So I stand by my statement, albeit with a clarification for everyone.

[Spicoli]

If a fighter wants to run up numbers and inflate his bank account against set ups he can count on fans calling him on it, a can man cannot have it both ways. Opponent for opponent and case by case, Wilder has one of the weakest heavyweight records within 35 bouts that I've ever seen, its Lou Savareseville.

[Britkid]

If a fighter wants to run up numbers and inflate his bank account against set ups he can count on fans calling him on it, a can man cannot have it both ways. Opponent for opponent and case by case, Wilder has one of the weakest heavyweight records within 35 bouts that I've ever seen, its Lou Savareseville.

Getting recognized when are 70 or getting kudos off the Internet is all very nice, great for the ego. But if I was Wilder I would much rather be hated in my mansion, knowing I never need work again after leaving the game...

[Master]

If a fighter wants to run up numbers and inflate his bank account against set ups he can count on fans calling him on it, a can man cannot have it both ways. Opponent for opponent and case by case, Wilder has one of the weakest heavyweight records within 35 bouts that I've ever seen, its Lou Savareseville.

Getting recognized when are 70 or getting kudos off the Internet is all very nice, great for the ego. But if I was Wilder I would much rather be hated in my mansion, knowing I never need work again after leaving the game...

Wilder is getting away with getting paid a lot but taking very little risk. All good for him but when he gets caught out he will be exposed.

[Britkid]

If a fighter wants to run up numbers and inflate his bank account against set ups he can count on fans calling him on it, a can man cannot have it both ways. Opponent for opponent and case by case, Wilder has one of the weakest heavyweight records within 35 bouts that I've ever seen, its Lou Savareseville.

Getting recognized when are 70 or getting kudos off the Internet is all very nice, great for the ego. But if I was Wilder I would much rather be hated in my mansion, knowing I never need work again after leaving the game...

Wilder is getting away with getting paid a lot but taking very little risk. All good for him but when he gets caught out he will be exposed.

Agreed; but by then he may not care (financially), and surely that means he is a successful professional boxer in a capitalist society?!

[Master]

If a fighter wants to run up numbers and inflate his bank account against set ups he can count on fans calling him on it, a can man cannot have it both ways. Opponent for opponent and case by case, Wilder has one of the weakest heavyweight records within 35 bouts that I've ever seen, its Lou Savareseville.

Getting recognized when are 70 or getting kudos off the Internet is all very nice, great for the ego. But if I was Wilder I would much rather be hated in my mansion, knowing I never need work again after leaving the game...

Wilder is getting away with getting paid a lot but taking very little risk. All good for him but when he gets caught out he will be exposed.

Agreed; but by then he may not care (financially), and surely that means he is a successful professional boxer in a capitalist society?!

Money is the primary thing in boxing but you also want to be respected and loved not laughed at.

[Spicoli]

If a fighter wants to run up numbers and inflate his bank account against set ups he can count on fans calling him on it, a can man cannot have it both ways. Opponent for opponent and case by case, Wilder has one of the weakest heavyweight records within 35 bouts that I've ever seen, its Lou Savareseville.

Getting recognized when are 70 or getting kudos off the Internet is all very nice, great for the ego. But if I was Wilder I would much rather be hated in my mansion, knowing I never need work again after leaving the game...

Truth, I can't fault a guy getting in where he fits in. He is skating by and knows its the way. But when do we root for mediocrity and manufacturing? Wilder is on pace to emulate Shannon Briggs 1.5...minus the chin...and he fronts like a guy just happy taking puffed up selfies in all 6 of his bathroom mirrors.

[Britkid]

If a fighter wants to run up numbers and inflate his bank account against set ups he can count on fans calling him on it, a can man cannot have it both ways. Opponent for opponent and case by case, Wilder has one of the weakest heavyweight records within 35 bouts that I've ever seen, its Lou Savareseville.

Getting recognized when are 70 or getting kudos off the Internet is all very nice, great for the ego. But if I was Wilder I would much rather be hated in my mansion, knowing I never need work again after leaving the game...

Truth, I can't fault a guy getting in where he fits in. He is skating by and knows its the way. But when do we root for mediocrity and manufacturing? Wilder is on pace to emulate Shannon Briggs 1.5...minus the chin...and he fronts like a guy just happy taking puffed up selfies in all 6 of his bathroom mirrors.

I have a soft spot for Wilder. Watching some of his early fights, he looked so inept, almost a joke. I expected to see him fall flat on his face for every step up fight he has had. But he continues to defy this.

His resume is hardly the second coming of Ali/Louis, but he has stepped up and passed each test. But I would concede that even in this poor era of the division, that merely should mean he is a top ten contender, not a title holder and generally recognized number one challenger to the Fury/Wlad rematch.

[beenKOed]

If a fighter wants to run up numbers and inflate his bank account against set ups he can count on fans calling him on it, a can man cannot have it both ways. Opponent for opponent and case by case, Wilder has one of the weakest heavyweight records within 35 bouts that I've ever seen, its Lou Savareseville.

Getting recognized when are 70 or getting kudos off the Internet is all very nice, great for the ego. But if I was Wilder I would much rather be hated in my mansion, knowing I never need work again after leaving the game...

I can see both sides of this issue, but at the end of the day are you a fighter or not? Money is great and they should get it while they can, but are they fighters or not? Taking care of your family is #1, but after that is taken care of, are you a man or not?
Where is pride if you keep avoiding the best while claiming you are the best?

[Britkid]

If a fighter wants to run up numbers and inflate his bank account against set ups he can count on fans calling him on it, a can man cannot have it both ways. Opponent for opponent and case by case, Wilder has one of the weakest heavyweight records within 35 bouts that I've ever seen, its Lou Savareseville.

Getting recognized when are 70 or getting kudos off the Internet is all very nice, great for the ego. But if I was Wilder I would much rather be hated in my mansion, knowing I never need work again after leaving the game...

I can see both sides of this issue, but at the end of the day are you a fighter or not? Money is great and they should get it while they can, but are they fighters or not? Taking care of your family is #1, but after that is taken care of, are you a man or not?
Where is pride if you keep avoiding the best while claiming you are the best?

If I was the boxer, I would respond: "You are right, so pay me what I want and I will show you I am the best."

I do not know about you, but if I went to work and was asked to do a massive task that will challenge me and may indeed be beyond me, I would want a wage slip that reflects that. So I would be a hypocrite to expect others to do such things without the rewards they too expect.

[Master]

If a fighter wants to run up numbers and inflate his bank account against set ups he can count on fans calling him on it, a can man cannot have it both ways. Opponent for opponent and case by case, Wilder has one of the weakest heavyweight records within 35 bouts that I've ever seen, its Lou Savareseville.

Getting recognized when are 70 or getting kudos off the Internet is all very nice, great for the ego. But if I was Wilder I would much rather be hated in my mansion, knowing I never need work again after leaving the game...

I can see both sides of this issue, but at the end of the day are you a fighter or not? Money is great and they should get it while they can, but are they fighters or not? Taking care of your family is #1, but after that is taken care of, are you a man or not?
Where is pride if you keep avoiding the best while claiming you are the best?

If I was the boxer, I would respond: "You are right, so pay me what I want and I will show you I am the best."

I do not know about you, but if I went to work and was asked to do a massive task that will challenge me and may indeed be beyond me, I would want a wage slip that reflects that. So I would be a hypocrite to expect others to do such things without the rewards they too expect.

Basically Wilder is being overpaid to fight these bums and when presented with a real challenge he will expect to be paid even more.

[IamInuit]

Fighters ought to be banned from calling out other fighters. 90% of the fighters north of Mexico cant take a dump w/o permission and if its not outright banned then fine these chatter-boxes every time they call someone out and then defer to Teflon Al, Top Wank or Golden Ploy.

That would improve things. If you cant make the decision, don't say anything.

[Spicoli]

Saw a video Wilder put together about "pinhead". He was shooting what looked like LRSR aimed within 60 feet . Said he was sending Szpilka "to heaven".

Guy talks more bullshit than he has managed to actually stack so far. Counting months until Wilder is lit up badly like a dry Christmas tree by some random spark.

[IamInuit]

Indeed. Why are all of these guys thanking Haymon? For what? I just cant figure it out. Its almost cult like. Whats Thurman waiting for? One shot my ass.