The 2nd British fighter to win the Ring magazine fighter of the year is.....

[ross]

I never said size wasn't a factor, of course it was. It could have benefited Wlad fighting someone his own size for all we knew but it certainly did not.

It just showed - as eric keeps saying - without the holding and climbing all over fighters backs and reach advantage and size advantage he was just a big stiff with a pawing jab and occasional right hand.

Dont forget the left hook!

Most of these revisionist opinions are based on peoples dislike of Fury.

These same people will still have Haye beating Fury

[erics44]

I never said size wasn't a factor, of course it was. It could have benefited Wlad fighting someone his own size for all we knew but it certainly did not.

It just showed - as eric keeps saying - without the holding and climbing all over fighters backs and reach advantage and size advantage he was just a big stiff with a pawing jab and occasional right hand.

Dont forget the left hook!

Most of these revisionist opinions are based on peoples dislike of Fury.

These same people will still have Haye beating Fury

I have no hate for fury at all, I am a fan

I have been saying this about wlad for years

[Fenster]

Hold up, ross. This has nothing to do with Fury. Lots of us have been complaining for years about Wlad's holding/fouling, one-dimensional boring style. Dig up the Povetkin RBR thread, I was asking for him to be DQ'd before the end of the 1st round.

And by the way - You was the one before the fight telling everyone, a million times, how Wlad was overrated and Fury would win easy.

You can't have it both ways. You can't say "this is an easy fight." Then when your man wins say "this was the greatest win in history."

[ross]

Hold up, ross. This has nothing to do with Fury. Lots of us have been complaining for years about Wlad's holding/fouling, one-dimensional boring style. Dig up the Povetkin RBR thread, I was asking for him to be DQ'd before the end of the 1st round.

And by the way - You was the one before the fight telling everyone, a million times, how Wlad was overrated and Fury would win easy.

You can't have it both ways. You can't say "this is an easy fight." Then when your man wins say "this was the greatest win in history."

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[Primo Carnera]

Dont forget the left hook!

Most of these revisionist opinions are based on peoples dislike of Fury.

These same people will still have Haye beating Fury

Like I said before , most people don't dislike Fury, It's YOU that they dislike.
and you keep mentioning "revisionist" like it's some sort of plague. If I get something wrong, is it better to admit it, learn from that and move forward , or use a pack of excuses and go into denial?
obviously opinion is going to change.
Styles make fights. I happen to think Fury probably beats Wlad in a rematch, and I would fancy him against Wilder. However, there are a few HW's out there that I think could beat him . I might be wrong , but like I've said many times before , time will tell.

[ross]

Dont forget the left hook!

Most of these revisionist opinions are based on peoples dislike of Fury.

These same people will still have Haye beating Fury

Like I said before , most people don't dislike Fury, It's YOU that they dislike.
and you keep mentioning "revisionist" like it's some sort of plague. If I get something wrong, is it better to admit it, learn from that and move forward , or use a pack of excuses and go into denial?
obviously opinion is going to change.
Styles make fights. I happen to think Fury probably beats Wlad in a rematch, and I would fancy him against Wilder. However, there are a few HW's out there that I think could beat him . I might be wrong , but like I've said many times before , time will tell.

Thats wonderful because I would have to question myself if the people who type some of the utter hatefull and sometimes racist crap who always go on about how they send each other messages to each other on here ever did start liking me

A wolf doesnt lose sleep over the opinion of sheep