Nikolai Valuev: Is He The Real Deal?

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Personally i really dont like this bloke i think he's a joke. He has seriously not fought ANYBODY and he mite go on to beat Rocky's record......Jesus how poor the HW division is!

Wouldn't be the worst thing that could happen... Rocky wasn't all that either.

Of course you don't think he was.

You just lost quite a few points on the credibility scale bub.

Dear god no....

Yeah I know...no big deal but my objective isn't to make you cry here on the forum (with the exception of the Toney fan bashing thing Sorry ) but cmon..you put me in a really ackward position with that ignorant statement you made.
Marciano is the only heavyweight to retire undefeated and that wasn't due to a lack of fights or his overwhelming size either. He beat Joe Louis to boot. So wtf?

My point was that a fighters record doesn't tell the whole story.. People only look at Rocky and say, oh.. he retired undefeated, wow, he's the greatest. Not anyone on this forum, but friends of mine who don't really watch boxing, and probably the vast majority of uninformed boxing fans think the 2 greatest HW's ever were Ali and Rocky. The fact all his big wins were over fighters who were past it, and he retired very early because his style wasn't going to be effective for any longer... there are lots of HW's who could have retired undefeated and just kept fighting, it doesn't mean they weren't better fighters in their prime. Larry Holmes was 1 win away from surpassing Marciano's record, but he fell short on the 1 occasion after ruling the division for 7 years, and he isn't recognized as acheiving as much, probably because he kept fighting past his best.. Im just saying that Valuev could fight another 4 or 5 decent fringe contenders and surpass Rocky's record, but it wouldn't mean dick all.. Just like I don't feel Rocky's undefeated record means as much as most do. If I lost some credibility in your books, I can live with that... Rather express my opinion thank's very much.