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    Default Re: Have The WBA Just stripped Fury too? Look at this!!

    I feel sorry for Fury.

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    Default Re: Have The WBA Just stripped Fury too? Look at this!!

    Fury can have 1 title and still be regarded as the best. It helps having all of them but if they are being unreasoable then there is very little Fury can do.

    It also makes you appreciate Wlad being able to keep them all together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Fury can have 1 title and still be regarded as the best. It helps having all of them but if they are being unreasoable then there is very little Fury can do.

    It also makes you appreciate Wlad being able to keep them all together.
    Tyson doesnt need any titles to be the best.

    Absolutely no one thought Wilder was better than Klitschko and Klitschko was seen as miles better than everyone. Tyson has beaten him easily and is now the best heavyweight in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Fury can have 1 title and still be regarded as the best. It helps having all of them but if they are being unreasoable then there is very little Fury can do.

    It also makes you appreciate Wlad being able to keep them all together.
    Tyson doesnt need any titles to be the best.

    Absolutely no one thought Wilder was better than Klitschko and Klitschko was seen as miles better than everyone. Tyson has beaten him easily and is now the best heavyweight in the world.
    Trust me , Fury needs at least one belt. That way he can still say he's the champion and nobody took the belts in the ring and he can earn good dollar.
    If he has no belts, especially if he doesn't lose them in the ring, he will become the chairman of the "who needs him" club. Why would anybody fight him? What's to gain from fighting him?
    Example , would Joshua fight him? No. Hearn has already distanced Joshua from a Haye fight unless Haye has a World title.
    Would Haye fight him? Probably yeah (we'll agree to disagree on that.)
    Would Fury fight Haye? No. He's already said that because he thinks Haye is a cunt. Understandable, but not very helpful.
    Would Wilder fight him? No, because he doesn't have a title, therefore he doesn't bring the money, high risk low reward.
    Who would want to fight him?
    Dining out on being "the man that beat the man" won't last that long.
    Btw , none of this is a criticism of Fury, it's just the way it is unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Fury can have 1 title and still be regarded as the best. It helps having all of them but if they are being unreasoable then there is very little Fury can do.

    It also makes you appreciate Wlad being able to keep them all together.
    Tyson doesnt need any titles to be the best.

    Absolutely no one thought Wilder was better than Klitschko and Klitschko was seen as miles better than everyone. Tyson has beaten him easily and is now the best heavyweight in the world.
    Trust me , Fury needs at least one belt. That way he can still say he's the champion and nobody took the belts in the ring and he can earn good dollar.
    If he has no belts, especially if he doesn't lose them in the ring, he will become the chairman of the "who needs him" club. Why would anybody fight him? What's to gain from fighting him?
    Example , would Joshua fight him? No. Hearn has already distanced Joshua from a Haye fight unless Haye has a World title.
    Would Haye fight him? Probably yeah (we'll agree to disagree on that.)
    Would Fury fight Haye? No. He's already said that because he thinks Haye is a cunt. Understandable, but not very helpful.
    Would Wilder fight him? No, because he doesn't have a title, therefore he doesn't bring the money, high risk low reward.
    Who would want to fight him?
    Dining out on being "the man that beat the man" won't last that long.
    Btw , none of this is a criticism of Fury, it's just the way it is unfortunately.
    Well believe it or not I dont think its going to be long before Tyson is THE money man in the division.

    I see his star building like Mayweathers. Although even Mayweather needed 8 years of world title fights before he became a pay per view fighter!

    Tyson I think is now alongside Klitschko the most well known Heavyweight among casuals around the world for various reasons. What I mean by that is Haye and Joshua sell in Britain but put them in America and do they draw the same? Wilder v Fury would sell more than Wilder v Joshua or Haye in America.

    HBO are airing a show about Tyson next week http://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fur...gumbel--100541

    People are just cottoning on to how good and interesting he is. Hes brought this to their attention himself as im sure you will agree Henessey has not put the promotion behind him that both Jishua and Haye have had the benefit of. I used this phrase alot previously regarding Tyson but people could not see the wood for the trees.
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    At this moment in time , Wilder v Fury would sell more than Wilder v Haye or Joshua, but only because Fury IS World Champion.
    And Besides, Wilder hasn't convinced the States yet either, that's why last weekend he was adamant that he would be more than happy to come over here for a Fury fight. There's more money for him here than in the States at the moment.
    If Fury didn't have a title, Wilder wouldn't give him a second glance.

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    Haye had the benefit of big promotion? He and Adam Booth went alone from the start, fighting on several different small hall promoters bills. He's never been with a superpower promotional outfit.

    Fury is an excellent self-promoter. His fame has nothing to do with his boxing skill.

    If Fury is the new Floyd (lol) I suggest he needs to start by moving to Vegas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Haye had the benefit of big promotion? He and Adam Booth went alone from the start, fighting on several different small hall promoters bills. He's never been with a superpower promotional outfit.

    Fury is an excellent self-promoter. His fame has nothing to do with his boxing skill.

    If Fury is the new Floyd (lol) I suggest he needs to start by moving to Vegas.
    Well as experienced as you are at managing world class fighters I think Fury is doing fine. Hes only 27 and has years ahead of him and his first world title fight was in front of 50 odd thousand fans, a pay per view (younger than Floyd in his first pay per view) and beating an all time great to boot. Hes also the most talked about fighter in the world

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    I never said Fury wasn't doing well.

    If he's the next Mayweather - as you confidently claim - then he's gonna make hundreds of millions and reign unbeaten for donkey's years. Therefore, to make the dough, he needs Las Vegas casinos and American PPV TV money.

    So far he's never single-handedly headlined/carried a major show in Britain. The 50,000 German fans were Wlad's, hence why Fury has to go back to Germany. It was reported that AJ-Whyte did more PPV buys than Fury-Wlad.

    He's definitely the most talked about fighter in your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I never said Fury wasn't doing well.

    If he's the next Mayweather - as you confidently claim - then he's gonna make hundreds of millions and reign unbeaten for donkey's years. Therefore, to make the dough, he needs Las Vegas casinos and American PPV TV money.

    So far he's never single-handedly headlined/carried a major show in Britain. The 50,000 German fans were Wlad's, hence why Fury has to go back to Germany. It was reported that AJ-Whyte did more PPV buys than Fury-Wlad.

    He's definitely the most talked about fighter in your head.
    Where did I say hes the next Mayweather?

    Hes already one up on Mayweather in his career path anyway, beating Klitschko is better than beating Gerano Hernandez.

    I said his career will build like Mayweathers (you can clearly see I said that but chose to interperate ad you please) where not many took much notice at the start of their career but as time goes on he will be huge.

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    Default Re: Have The WBA Just stripped Fury too? Look at this!!

    This sounds like these sanctioning orgs wanted to lift their titles from Wlad all of this time...

    lolol...
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