Danny Garcia vs Amir Khan, ordered By WBC!

[Primo Carnera]

I quite like Garcia but don't see him beating Khan think Khan might even stop Garcia

Khan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.

This is the main change.

Virgil hunter.

Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.

Well Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.

[imp]

Theres no way this can't happen this summer...Garcia will have to dig deep after 3 rounds and just brawl.

[Master]

Theres no way this can't happen this summer...Garcia will have to dig deep after 3 rounds and just brawl.

Khan will box Garcia's ears off providing he does not let Danny's dad get to him.

[Lineal]

I'm in two minds as to whether this fight comes off or not. Khan knows a money fight with Brook is around, will he try to play hard ball asking for too much for a Garcia fight?

I'd like to see the fight, Khan gets a shot at redemption.

[erics44]

I'm in two minds as to whether this fight comes off or not. Khan knows a money fight with Brook is around, will he try to play hard ball asking for too much for a Garcia fight?

I'd like to see the fight, Khan gets a shot at redemption.

I don't think it will happen

Garcia will bottle it

[Silkeyjoe]

I quite like Garcia but don't see him beating Khan think Khan might even stop Garcia

Khan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.

This is the main change.

Virgil hunter.

Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.

Well Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.

Garcia does not want this fight and I would not be shocked to see him vacate than take this fight. I think Khan wins a rematch easily. He could win a shut out if he doesnt stop Garcia. Only way Garcia can win is by KO and I dont thin he'll catch Khan this time.

[J_Undisputed]

If khan stays away or Garcia spends the whole night persuing him, khan can squeeze out a points victory. I think Garcia lands the shot again, because khan can't resist trying to prove his some kind of beast.

Khan could have arguably better footwork under virgil than he had before but hasn't upped his IQ. In a perfect fight, Khan perfects his lateral movement, uses his reach and speed to pick at garcia and pivots out every time garcia crowds him and stiff arms him with a jab to gets the distance he needs to keep the fight going this way. Looking like ali cutting up a bum rushing slugger.

The reality for me is that khan doesn't always listen to his trainers. So you can bet even if he started out perfect, he'd abandon the plan for what he thinks he can get away with. Also his linear jousting style, depends much on accuracy and power-- and his greedy offense leaves him him in the worst possible place a chinny guy can be when his punches stop. It's like having a Ferrari that stalls in the middle of every intersection, railroad crossing, and at the end of every on ramp. He bounces on the in outside and then comes straight forward leaning into fast flurries that brings him right into Garcias wheelhouse. It works well on guys that will shell up or retreat as hes throwing punches or guys that can't take his punches....but... Khan tends to focus so much on his offense that he ignores everything else going on or possible at that moment, which is why he keeps getting caught with shots he doesn't see. Garcia can bait khan and time him with the counter hook again or pivot and loop one over the top like the shot that Donaire momentarily put Rigo on his butt with. Khan would need to work on controlling his distance and exiting safely (whether that'd footwork, jabbing his way out or just clinching and hoping the ref resets)-- just my opinion...i could be wrong.

[Primo Carnera]

I quite like Garcia but don't see him beating Khan think Khan might even stop Garcia

Khan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.

This is the main change.

Virgil hunter.

Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.

Well Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.

Garcia does not want this fight and I would not be shocked to see him vacate than take this fight. I think Khan wins a rematch easily. He could win a shut out if he doesnt stop Garcia. Only way Garcia can win is by KO and I dont thin he'll catch Khan this time.

I cannot believe how many people have jumped on the "Amir Khan is a high class quality Boxer" bandwagon, even to the extent that apparently Garcia doesn't want the fight!
Tell me, wtf has Garcia got to worry about? I've heard nonsense like:
"in the first fight , Khan was accumulating rounds" - really ? Garcia plugged him in the 2nd Round and KO'd him in the 4th . Accumulating rounds my ass!
"Khan will outbox him and Garcia will be bloodied and stopped" - When has Garcia been stopped?
"Garcia doesn't want the fight" - Why wouldn't he want the fight? he knocked the cunt out last time.
"Garcia will give up his title" - What? why would he give up his title against someone who has no proven power in this division. he's hardly likely to be scared is he? if he gave up his title, he gives up the potential to be an elite fighter in the division and earn optimum money. he's gonna do that because of Khan? come on.
"Khan will keep Garcia away for 12 rounds" - answer me this ? if Khan is such a technically gifted boxer, how come he couldn't stop Chris Algieri coming forward at him and running him down?
Not Floyd, not Manny, not an elite fighter, but a fighter who had been floored 8, yes 8 times in his 2 previous fights. Khan made him look like a World beater!
I suggest people scrutinise Khan's record very carefully before they start elevating him to God Like Status!

[Master]

No one is or should make out that this is a formality for khan to win. However Khan has a better defence now and Garcia has looked beatable since he defeated Amir.

[Master]

Amir Khan demanded an 80-20 purse split in his favour to fight IBF welterweight champion and domestic rival Kell Brook, says Brook's promoter Eddie Hearn.

Khan, a former light-welterweight world champion, had taken to Twitter to accuse Brook of ducking him.

Khan added that Brook's demand of a 50-50 split was unacceptable.

Hearn said Brook would be happy to take the thin end of a 60-40 split and that he would continue to negotiate with Khan's team on that basis.

Hearn added that Khan's team had demanded more than £7m to fight Brook, which would have left Brook with £2.5m at most.

Hearn later told Sky Sports News: "He [Khan] is trying to price himself out of the fight because he doesn't want it.

"It's been very positive for the last few weeks and when there is dialogue it's always good. But I was left gobsmacked by their demands.
"I appreciate Khan is probably a bigger name than Kell Brook but Kell Brook is world champion and he needs some kind of parity. More importantly, he needs some respect."

Brook also weighed in to the row tweeting: "There you have it Amir Khan, put up or shut up. No more talk, June 4 Wembley stadium for the world title. I will destroy you."

Khan had hoped to fight Manny Pacquiao this year, but when Pacquiao decided to take a deciding match against Timothy Bradley instead it looked like a fight against Brook was a near certainty.

However, Khan's latest Twitter outburst - in which he mocked Brook for fighting "bums" and ducking the best in the welterweight division - would suggest that is not the case.

Bolton's Khan, who had also hoped to fight Floyd Mayweather last year before the American legend's retirement, says he would like a rematch with Danny Garcia next.

The unbeaten Garcia, who knocked Khan out in 2012, faces fellow American Robert Guerrero in Los Angeles on Saturday.

Khan, 29, has not fought since outpointing Chris Algieri in New York last May and has not held any world titles since losing to Lamont Peterson in 2011.

Sheffield's Brook, also 29, has also not fought since last May, when he stopped fellow Briton Frankie Gavin. Brook faces a mandatory defence against unheralded Canadian Kevin Bizier in March.

Meanwhile, Khan says Pacquiao's suggestion a fight between the two men was nixed by Khan's team "are wholly inaccurate and false".

"An initial meeting took place last September between [Pacquiao's promoter] Bob Arum and my uncle and lawyer in London," said Khan.

"My team was told by Bob Arum that it was a choice between either [WBO light-welterweight champion] Terence Crawford or myself.

"[Pacquiao's] team knew a fight between us would be a very dangerous one for him and best avoided. A fight with Bradley - who Pacquiao in most opinions has beaten twice - is a much easier option."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/35386831

[Gandalf]

I quite like Garcia but don't see him beating Khan think Khan might even stop Garcia

Khan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.

This is the main change.

Virgil hunter.

Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.

Well Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.

Garcia does not want this fight and I would not be shocked to see him vacate than take this fight. I think Khan wins a rematch easily. He could win a shut out if he doesnt stop Garcia. Only way Garcia can win is by KO and I dont thin he'll catch Khan this time.

I cannot believe how many people have jumped on the "Amir Khan is a high class quality Boxer" bandwagon, even to the extent that apparently Garcia doesn't want the fight!
Tell me, wtf has Garcia got to worry about? I've heard nonsense like:
"in the first fight , Khan was accumulating rounds" - really ? Garcia plugged him in the 2nd Round and KO'd him in the 4th . Accumulating rounds my ass!
"Khan will outbox him and Garcia will be bloodied and stopped" - When has Garcia been stopped?
"Garcia doesn't want the fight" - Why wouldn't he want the fight? he knocked the cunt out last time.
"Garcia will give up his title" - What? why would he give up his title against someone who has no proven power in this division. he's hardly likely to be scared is he? if he gave up his title, he gives up the potential to be an elite fighter in the division and earn optimum money. he's gonna do that because of Khan? come on.
"Khan will keep Garcia away for 12 rounds" - answer me this ? if Khan is such a technically gifted boxer, how come he couldn't stop Chris Algieri coming forward at him and running him down?
Not Floyd, not Manny, not an elite fighter, but a fighter who had been floored 8, yes 8 times in his 2 previous fights. Khan made him look like a World beater!
I suggest people scrutinise Khan's record very carefully before they start elevating him to God Like Status!

Dude, don't get me wrong. I am not high on Khan by a long shot and think he can sometimes be a very stupid boxer, but there is no denying that he wins most of the rounds he is in and he was beating Garcia last time out. That is just reality. It is also reality that he got stopped badly. He is very difficult to outbox because he is just so busy, but he can be caught and typically does get caught.

In saying that I think Garcia has heavy feet and he can be outboxed by people who are far less naturally talented than Khan. That is why it is a great fight. Garcia has the KO already and is smarter, whereas Khan has the output and speed. It's just a good blend of styles and the fact that both fighters are flawed makes it fun.

I want to see Bradley against Khan, but if Khan is willing to face a demon or two, then that is cool for the time being. I wish he would shut up about Floyd being scared though. Stay active and fight, you silly sausage.

[Silkeyjoe]

I quite like Garcia but don't see him beating Khan think Khan might even stop Garcia

Khan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.

This is the main change.

Virgil hunter.

Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.

Well Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.

Garcia does not want this fight and I would not be shocked to see him vacate than take this fight. I think Khan wins a rematch easily. He could win a shut out if he doesnt stop Garcia. Only way Garcia can win is by KO and I dont thin he'll catch Khan this time.

I cannot believe how many people have jumped on the "Amir Khan is a high class quality Boxer" bandwagon, even to the extent that apparently Garcia doesn't want the fight!
Tell me, wtf has Garcia got to worry about? I've heard nonsense like:
"in the first fight , Khan was accumulating rounds" - really ? Garcia plugged him in the 2nd Round and KO'd him in the 4th . Accumulating rounds my ass!
"Khan will outbox him and Garcia will be bloodied and stopped" - When has Garcia been stopped?
"Garcia doesn't want the fight" - Why wouldn't he want the fight? he knocked the cunt out last time.
"Garcia will give up his title" - What? why would he give up his title against someone who has no proven power in this division. he's hardly likely to be scared is he? if he gave up his title, he gives up the potential to be an elite fighter in the division and earn optimum money. he's gonna do that because of Khan? come on.
"Khan will keep Garcia away for 12 rounds" - answer me this ? if Khan is such a technically gifted boxer, how come he couldn't stop Chris Algieri coming forward at him and running him down?
Not Floyd, not Manny, not an elite fighter, but a fighter who had been floored 8, yes 8 times in his 2 previous fights. Khan made him look like a World beater!
I suggest people scrutinise Khan's record very carefully before they start elevating him to God Like Status!

Garcias Dad interviewed saying they dont want the fight and said even though its been ordered the fight isnt happening. Obviously you have to take what he says with a pinch of salt but it looks pretty clear they are trying to find a different option.

In the interview he explained they did not want the fight because the 1st was a complete mismatch Khan won round 1 and opened a cut in round 2. He got tagged in round 3 and never recovered. After round 2 Khan was a 50s on fav for the fight.

You obviously dont like Khan thats fair enough. I think hes an exceptional boxer but his chin and machismo lets him down sometimes. Getting a handle of that and he can beat anyone. Garcia has a punchers chance against him, thats all in my opinion. Obviously against Khan a punchers chance is better than against most other fighters but still have Khan as the strong fav.

Again its been ordered by the WBC so it should happen. The only reason it wouldnt is Garcia ducking him. Can we agree on that much? Its worth more money than any other fight in the division bar Floyd and Pac so I suppose if he dropped the title to fight one of them it would be acceptable.

[Primo Carnera]

I quite like Garcia but don't see him beating Khan think Khan might even stop Garcia

Khan will not try to stop him this time, that was where he went wrong last time. With Virgil, it is points victory.

This is the main change.

Virgil hunter.

Khan is undefeated with virgil..he will possibly outbox garcia this time by boxing smart...garcia and angel don't really want this fight.

Well Garcia is undefeated with his Dad. They wanted the fight before, they said exactly how Khan would get beat, and they want the fight again and their gameplan will be the same and the result will be the same, IF Khan actually goes ahead with it.

Garcia does not want this fight and I would not be shocked to see him vacate than take this fight. I think Khan wins a rematch easily. He could win a shut out if he doesnt stop Garcia. Only way Garcia can win is by KO and I dont thin he'll catch Khan this time.

I cannot believe how many people have jumped on the "Amir Khan is a high class quality Boxer" bandwagon, even to the extent that apparently Garcia doesn't want the fight!
Tell me, wtf has Garcia got to worry about? I've heard nonsense like:
"in the first fight , Khan was accumulating rounds" - really ? Garcia plugged him in the 2nd Round and KO'd him in the 4th . Accumulating rounds my ass!
"Khan will outbox him and Garcia will be bloodied and stopped" - When has Garcia been stopped?
"Garcia doesn't want the fight" - Why wouldn't he want the fight? he knocked the cunt out last time.
"Garcia will give up his title" - What? why would he give up his title against someone who has no proven power in this division. he's hardly likely to be scared is he? if he gave up his title, he gives up the potential to be an elite fighter in the division and earn optimum money. he's gonna do that because of Khan? come on.
"Khan will keep Garcia away for 12 rounds" - answer me this ? if Khan is such a technically gifted boxer, how come he couldn't stop Chris Algieri coming forward at him and running him down?
Not Floyd, not Manny, not an elite fighter, but a fighter who had been floored 8, yes 8 times in his 2 previous fights. Khan made him look like a World beater!
I suggest people scrutinise Khan's record very carefully before they start elevating him to God Like Status!

Garcias Dad interviewed saying they dont want the fight and said even though its been ordered the fight isnt happening. Obviously you have to take what he says with a pinch of salt but it looks pretty clear they are trying to find a different option.

In the interview he explained they did not want the fight because the 1st was a complete mismatch Khan won round 1 and opened a cut in round 2. He got tagged in round 3 and never recovered. After round 2 Khan was a 50s on fav for the fight.

You obviously dont like Khan thats fair enough. I think hes an exceptional boxer but his chin and machismo lets him down sometimes. Getting a handle of that and he can beat anyone. Garcia has a punchers chance against him, thats all in my opinion. Obviously against Khan a punchers chance is better than against most other fighters but still have Khan as the strong fav.

Again its been ordered by the WBC so it should happen. The only reason it wouldnt is Garcia ducking him. Can we agree on that much? Its worth more money than any other fight in the division bar Floyd and Pac so I suppose if he dropped the title to fight one of them it would be acceptable.

Actually Silks, no we can't mate. If Khan decided to fight Brook, it wouldn't go ahead. And I bet nobody would then say Khan ducked him. If Brook tried to get a unification with Garcia it probably wouldn't either.
You're right , I don't like Khan. But it's because he is so overrated by himself and many others. Also, he is throwing a career away and almost becoming a better fighter without fighting . It's bullshit really and he has an unacceptable opinion of his importance.
If you look at his career and what has actually happened IN THE RING since he lost to Prescott, it's not as outstanding as one would believe.
We'll have to agree to differ on this one.

[Silkeyjoe]

I agree he hasnt done anything special.

He beat Maidana which was good considering what Maidana went onto do after. He beat Judah who gave Garcia a tough fight. Felt he got robbed against Peterson. Beat Collazo which is nothing special but felt he did it more impressively than Thurman (who I fell is the most overrated in the div) and beat Devon Alexander who had previously been ducked by top fighters in the div.

I dont think anyone is debating Khan ducking Brook. Ive said it for years along with most on the forum. But if Garcia vacates it looks a clear duck to me. Porter and Thurman would be acceptable but arent available. Either is Pac or Bradley and that only really leaves Spence, Vasquez, Peterson or Vargas. Spence and Vasquez be very good fights but couldnt see Garcia taking them and Peterson and Vargas step down from Khan imo.

[Primo Carnera]

I agree he hasnt done anything special.

He beat Maidana which was good considering what Maidana went onto do after. He beat Judah who gave Garcia a tough fight. Felt he got robbed against Peterson. Beat Collazo which is nothing special but felt he did it more impressively than Thurman (who I fell is the most overrated in the div) and beat Devon Alexander who had previously been ducked by top fighters in the div.

I dont think anyone is debating Khan ducking Brook. Ive said it for years along with most on the forum. But if Garcia vacates it looks a clear duck to me. Porter and Thurman would be acceptable but arent available. Either is Pac or Bradley and that only really leaves Spence, Vasquez, Peterson or Vargas. Spence and Vasquez be very good fights but couldnt see Garcia taking them and Peterson and Vargas step down from Khan imo.

If you read the statement from Angel Garcia, and my post above, Garcia won't be vacating.
Maidana - was a good win, probably his best. Still nearly managed to lose it in the 10th, but he won, good win.
Judah - with all due respect everybody decent beats Judah, don't they?
Peterson - I thought it was pretty even, but the points deduction swung it Peterson's way. Agree or disagree with the points deductions , but I'd hardly call it a robbery. You have to remember , that before the fight , people thought it was a pretty routine and easy defence. So even if he won a close fight, it's hardly a great performance.
Collazo - I won't bore you with my views on that one.
Alexander - never been known as a puncher and he is not a top level fighter .he was at one time, but not when Khan beat him.