Would Audley Harrison Beat Charles Martin?

[TitoFan]

I think he would

styles make fights and all, Audley wouldn't be under the type of pressure that made him fold

at his best, audley could beat martin, and probably by Knock out

I know you have a thing for all UK heavyweights.
And believe me.... I'm fully on board with the likes of Fury and AJ.

But this is where we part company.
Funny you mention the word "fold".
It's exactly the description of what would happen to Audley against Martin.
Only question is whether it would be in Rounds 1, 2, or 3.
It's what Audley does.

[Primo Carnera]

In all seriousness, Audley clearly had talent, you don't win an Olympic Gold medal without that, and IMO he won his Gold better than AJ Won his ( I thought he lost twice ). But the mental side of the sport has to be considered and believe me, Audley is fucking mental!!!!
It's a bit disrespectful to Martin , seeing as we haven't seen a great deal of him.
You could say does Olympic winning Audley beat Olympic winning AJ ? And I would say yes, he probably does.
But after all said and done , what does it mean?

[Master]

No. Never ever would Audley beat Martin. How poor do you think Martin is?

[powerpuncher]

I've only seen Martin in this last fight and he didn't look that good. So I really have no idea. But why does it matter anyways? That's like asking could Corrie Sanders beat povetkin. Who cares?

[TitoFan]

It's the principle of the thing. Obviously the only consideration here is that Audley's British, and Martin is not. As I said, there's an exciting young group of UK HW prospects out there (well.... a prospect and a champion). But let's not get carried away and make believe Audley is something he's not.

[Beanz]

It's the principle of the thing. Obviously the only consideration here is that Audley's British, and Martin is not. As I said, there's an exciting young group of UK HW prospects out there (well.... a prospect and a champion). But let's not get carried away and make believe Audley is something he's not.

I think you are being a bit unfair with that assertion. We have for over a hundred years had a very good, tough and demanding domestic scene here in Britain. So we are more than capable of being able to assess when fighters are incapable of stepping up, and when the gulf is too big. I think Eric has a point. It easy to just trot out the "OH Audley will fold, that's what he does" line but actually earlier in his career (post Olympics) after losing to Danny Williams and then Sprott he fought them again and beat them. So yeah an Audley now might struggle, but the guy can clump a bit and even with having issues with his mental game, could still knock a lot of HW's spark out. Unlikely but not impossible.

[johnsebastianmiran]

Audley lost his desire to win quite a while ago because that became his principle problem.

[TitoFan]

It's the principle of the thing. Obviously the only consideration here is that Audley's British, and Martin is not. As I said, there's an exciting young group of UK HW prospects out there (well.... a prospect and a champion). But let's not get carried away and make believe Audley is something he's not.

I think you are being a bit unfair with that assertion. We have for over a hundred years had a very good, tough and demanding domestic scene here in Britain. So we are more than capable of being able to assess when fighters are incapable of stepping up, and when the gulf is too big. I think Eric has a point. It easy to just trot out the "OH Audley will fold, that's what he does" line but actually earlier in his career (post Olympics) after losing to Danny Williams and then Sprott he fought them again and beat them. So yeah an Audley now might struggle, but the guy can clump a bit and even with having issues with his mental game, could still knock a lot of HW's spark out. Unlikely but not impossible.

Obviously the guy has pop. Big, strong guy with a decent KO percentage on his record. But every time he stepped up to the big stage, he had a propensity to lose via spectacular early round KTFO. It's the HW's, so anything can happen..... a lucky punch, and the fight turns. But the guy's record speaks for itself.

Beyond that, however, it's Eric's stone clad assertion on the matter. The same Eric who calls Frank Bruno the best fighter (not HW..... fighter) over six rounds in the history of boxing, p4p. He also unabashedly calls the still rising AJ "the most exciting heavyweight since Iron Mike Tyson." Do you detect a pattern here?

So when you say... "we are more than capable of being able to assess when fighters are incapable of stepping up, and when the gulf is too big"..... you're casting your net over a whole bunch of people. This is one of those things where you have to individualize. Maybe substituting "I am" for "we are" would go over a bit better.