Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
well steroids are only one of the many cocktail of drugs pro athletes use, I think you are being a bit blinkered if you just look for the after effects of muscle growth drugs :S....... the are so many options for guys to use, boosting endurance, boosting recovery times from hard training and so on... I dont think there is anyway to tell just by looking at someone whether they are doped or not.. It is a really hard and highly scientific and professional job to catch the pro drugs cheats, I think you are more likely to bust the infrastructure of doping rather than getting guys testing positive(aka, evan fields and peyton manning getting hgh delivered )...
Agreed and as already pointed out by @Spicoli both the walking candy apple and the michlin man were users. Its possible Martin is or has for the same reasons. @Master makes one think also. I'm on record of calling people naive for thinking that most are not using and yet through all of Manny's demolition of others one would have to think others would use if he was in order to beat him or level it out. I believe the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming for Manny and that it makes no difference that he was never caught by tests they new time and place for beforehand.

Taking Masters optimistic angle it follows that most of the opponents he destroyed were not using since he destroyed them. Could be as simple as moral/religious/ethical reasons. Or to its conclusion, he wasn't either, he was just better.

I believe there are compounds being used that have not even been designated yet. Some even w/o a name. These people still have POT as a performance enhancing drug. A benign substance that would remain in the system up to 90 days after using. This they care about but not random tests.

Does anyone honestly believe that the Klits were clean? How does one explain the stretch marks from the weight room? How about Briggs, Joshua or Haye? If Martin demanded random tests would we be seeing this fight? If Martin has never used now would be a time when his handlers may approach him. This is the time when fighters might cross the line.