Anthony Joshua to fight Charles Martin for IBF title

[ross]

Again you are talking world but mean Britain.

Id say Fury v Wilder would sell more world wide than Joshua v Haye.

[Fenster]

No I mean worldwide, I know what I mean.

Wilder is not a bigger draw in the States than what Haye/AJ are in the UK. He's not a PPV fighter or as big a ticket seller. Wilder's last fight - which was on free TV - averaged under 500,000 viewers (your hero jumping in the ring got more attention than any interest in Wilder).

AJ-Haye would pack out Wembley, Fury-Wilder can't compete with that.

[ross]

In your modest opinion.....

[Primo Carnera]

Seeing as youv gone to the effort of replying to yourself 3 times.....

You are Hearns audience.

Naive.

I am not.

The fight is between 2 novices who would both be considered not ready for Tyson Fury and Wladimir Klitschko and the only way either of them ever had a chance of winning a world title was for a title to be stripped. Like I said, if you want to join in getting excited over that, ok. It doesnt make the heavyweight division any clearer, especially to those who will swallow this

Oh, you are such a plum Ross. I replied 3 times to myself to highlight the fact that you didn't have an answer. as for this "following Hearns Naïve" nonsense, all I was doing was answering your ridiculous rant about Hearn at the press conference . I didn't say I agreed with it, I didn't say Joshua is the next coming of Christ, I didn't say Joshua will spark Martin out early, I didn't even say I will be buying it PPV!!!!!!
But what I , and most other people who can be bothered to respond to you said was that Joshua is the cash cow of the division (potentially with Haye not far behind.)
This doesn't mean he's better than Fury or Wilder, it doesn't mean he would beat them, but what it does mean is that he is marketed better and has the potential to earn 5, maybe 10 times more than them . Obviously to do that , he needs to keep winning .
You are right , a lot of people will pay way too much money to watch certain fighters and Joshua earning £3Million for a British title fight is crazy. But it is a FACT, and you just have to get fucking used to it.
btw, if you think Fury/Wilder generates more revenue than a potential AJ/Haye matchup assuming AJ was World Champ, you are dreaming (wet dreams about Fury probably!)

[ross]

You need to learn to condense

[ross]

I find it amusing and roll my eyes that this is now some kind of dick measuring contest based on ticket sales as opposed to actuall skill level which even you Primo have just admitted that Johua would probably lose to Fury.

Lets also not forget that Wlad Klitschko just had his biggest audience against and payday against Tyson. So either Klitschko or Fury are the cash cows at the moment. Lets see what their rematch does in ticket sales, if the fight actually happens. Looking like it could be a stadium in the UK at the moment.

Joshua is fine being hyped and people jumping on what they hope is going to be a successful career. Wait till he fights actual world class fighters. One loss and that fan base will jump the sinking ship. Is Martin genuine world class? Is he fuck. Joshua is getting hyped as a destroyer but the second he cant destroy someone that interest dies down.

[Primo Carnera]

I find it amusing and roll my eyes that this is now some kind of dick measuring contest based on ticket sales as opposed to actuall skill level which even you Primo have just admitted that Johua would probably lose to Fury.

Lets also not forget that Wlad Klitschko just had his biggest audience against and payday against Tyson. So either Klitschko or Fury are the cash cows at the moment. Lets see what their rematch does in ticket sales, if the fight actually happens. Looking like it could be a stadium in the UK at the moment.

Joshua is fine being hyped and people jumping on what they hope is going to be a successful career. Wait till he fights actual world class fighters. One loss and that fan base will jump the sinking ship. Is Martin genuine world class? Is he fuck. Joshua is getting hyped as a destroyer but the second he cant destroy someone that interest dies down.

When did I admit that? (is that condensed enough for you?)

[Kirkland Laing]

Sold out the O2 Arena in London in 90 seconds and yet again a Hearn promotions tickets were well over 3 times the face value within seconds of going "officially on sale"
StubHub online who the Hearns have "business interests" with have mugged off punters once again and more than tripled the gate revenue.
We had a look in work for a laugh at 2 ringside tickets going for £5,800 with a massive £900 "booking fee" ....!!!!
Yes thats £900 for a telephone operator to take your credit card details and secure your tickets which is no different to what I do daily with my account holders in work and takes no more than 2 minutes.

It's a hell of a magic trick to turn a 20 000 seater into a 60 000 seater. You've got to give the Hearns respect from a business point of view.

[Kirkland Laing]

Press conferences are held to sell tickets. If you've sold out you're gonna mention it.

I spose your news agent also tells you how many papers hes sold every time hes selling you one too

Or when you pick up your chnese takeaway mr Wong tells you how many portions of special fried rice they have done that nght

Its just totally irrelevant information to you. As is Hearn telling people how many tickets hes sold. You want to know about the fighters not the logistics of putting a show together at a press conference to get people interested in watching

The fight is sold out so Hearn is now selling the PPV. Letting the British public know it sold out in 90 seconds helps persuade people that it's an event worth forking twenty quid out to watch on their tellies. So Hearn is doing both the obvious and the right thing in this instance.

[Kirkland Laing]

The sooner that fucking pikey gets sparked the better. This is almost as annoying as the pactard era.

[ross]

The sooner that fucking pikey gets sparked the better. This is almost as annoying as the pactard era.

Difference being Tyson is fighting men at their best and natural weight and is the best in the division

[Kirkland Laing]

What was the name of that pactard clown who eventually got banned?

[Master]

What was the name of that pactard clown who eventually got banned?

You have to narrow it down more than that!

[p4pking]

I don't follow the numbers very closely, obviously this fight will sell big and that's why it happened, they were willing to pay Martin a lot more than he is worth for the fact. Deontay Wilder isn't really a big draw compared to anyone I feel like? He'll make people money fighting in smaller venues in his home state, and being with Al Haymon probably get rewarded very well for it. A fight between him and Martin for instance wouldn't sell shit on it's own, when on paper it is what people were saying the division lacked for so long. Two undefeated Americans who look the part and have big power, in a unification fight, but who cares? It's not just because they are both paper champs either.

[Master]

I don't follow the numbers very closely, obviously this fight will sell big and that's why it happened, they were willing to pay Martin a lot more than he is worth for the fact. Deontay Wilder isn't really a big draw compared to anyone I feel like? He'll make people money fighting in smaller venues in his home state, and being with Al Haymon probably get rewarded very well for it. A fight between him and Martin for instance wouldn't sell shit on it's own, when on paper it is what people were saying the division lacked for so long. Two undefeated Americans who look the part and have big power, in a unification fight, but who cares? It's not just because they are both paper champs either.

Maybe it is because neither fighter has set the boxing world alight with their performances.