Quote Originally Posted by Gyrokai
So what your saying is Holmes is a better version of Ali, because his Jab took him places Ali could only dream?

Holmes barely got past an old OLD Norton! (Just as some think Ali lost to Norton, ASLO some think Holmes lost too.)
Holmes was knocked on his *ss by Ernie Shavers. heh Old Ernie couldn't put Ali down, even in Ali's Late Late career with a hint of Parkinsons' in his voice! (That's not a joke either about the voice.)
Holmes fought competitively with Cooney! haha (Although he then found his rhythm again.)
no shame getting floored as shavers is regarded by many as having the hardest punch of all time