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    Default Re: EU referendum

    I see two of them links are from 2014; the other six months old has the breakdown of those who were polled, which is somewhat cliche and rather exposes the ignorance on the subject.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I see. If the majority don't want it we shouldn't do it because it makes you uncomfortable. Letting a bunch of medieval nuts and sex abusers into the country civilises us.
    Being scared and unsettled by strangers seems more medieval to me. And yes it is uncomfortable that sometimes ignorance rules over logic.

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    Don't make up nonsense about what influences employment/unemployment levels. I've forgotten more about economics and finance than you'll ever know, it's not going to work. Letting hundreds of thousands of desperate jobless people every year into an existing job market isn't going to affect unemployment or wage rates? That's a rhetorical question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    I see two of them links are from 2014; the other six months old has the breakdown of those who were polled, which is somewhat cliche and rather exposes the ignorance on the subject.



    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I see. If the majority don't want it we shouldn't do it because it makes you uncomfortable. Letting a bunch of medieval nuts and sex abusers into the country civilises us.
    Being scared and unsettled by strangers seems more medieval to me. And yes it is uncomfortable that sometimes ignorance rules over logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Don't make up nonsense about what influences employment/unemployment levels. I've forgotten more about economics and finance than you'll ever know, it's not going to work. Letting hundreds of thousands of desperate jobless people every year into an existing job market isn't going to affect unemployment or wage rates? That's a rhetorical question.

    And answer my questions.
    Half of all British jobs could be replaced by robots, warns Bank of England’s chief economist - Telegraph
    Look, you wanted to see polls that showed immigration is the top issue with British voters. I showed you the polls. It's not that people are scared and unsettled by foreigners, they're facing competition for jobs, school places and healthcare resources amongst other things. That's what they don't like about uncontrolled immigration. They're not just a bunch of racists and bigots. They on the whole like immigrants but not the effects of immigration on their lives.

    https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/03/02...t-immigration/



    And I'm not talking about a potential future where robots take jobs. I'm talking about the present day, what is affecting people right now.

    You won't answer my questions because you know how the argument is going to go. I'm going to guess you live in London or a large city and are employed at graduate/professional level and are on your way up whatever career ladder you have. People like you aren't affected by immigration. There's full employment at graduate/professional level for people on the ladder. There are large numbers of jobs for people like you.

    So I've got a solution so that you can gain an appreciation of what it's like for all thos eprovincial bigots and racists who are scared and unsettled by foreigners. India produces ten million graduates a year. A lot of them are working for less than 10k a year. Let's help those foreigners out and help increase free market competition and give visas to a couple of million of highly qualified highly motivated Indian IT people, doctors, engineers, scientists, executives and so on.

    You'd immediately be terrified to be the last one to leave for work every day. You'd never get a pay rise again. You'd come into work one day and find your entire team has been sacked and replaced by people working for half your money. You or people you know would be losing your homes, having them repossessed, getting your wages cut and discovering what it's like to have to take out a 1509%APR loan to pay your bills every now and then.

    Within a couple of months of the Indians coming in you'd be hearing five million conversations all over London starting with "you know I'm not racist........"


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    Never mind pro-EU people, the good news is you're going to win the referendum. The bad news is the EU is collapsing anyway. First Schengen, then the euro. Maybe even some fuckers go to jail if we're lucky. More later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Never mind pro-EU people, the good news is you're going to win the referendum. The bad news is the EU is collapsing anyway. First Schengen, then the euro. Maybe even some fuckers go to jail if we're lucky. More later.
    I am not sure they will win. Even though media, multinationals and diplomats are all trying to scare people it is still close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Never mind pro-EU people, the good news is you're going to win the referendum. The bad news is the EU is collapsing anyway. First Schengen, then the euro. Maybe even some fuckers go to jail if we're lucky. More later.
    I am not sure they will win. Even though media, multinationals and diplomats are all trying to scare people it is still close.
    You dare to question my Infallibility! You've done it now. You're going to have to put your money where your mouth is. We're going to have a bet on it and I'm going to blow you out of the water with the money I'm betting. You either have to find the money to take the other side of the bet or crawl away defeated.

    I bet you 7p that we vote to stay in. There. See if you can match that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Never mind pro-EU people, the good news is you're going to win the referendum. The bad news is the EU is collapsing anyway. First Schengen, then the euro. Maybe even some fuckers go to jail if we're lucky. More later.
    I am not sure they will win. Even though media, multinationals and diplomats are all trying to scare people it is still close.
    You dare to question my Infallibility! You've done it now. You're going to have to put your money where your mouth is. We're going to have a bet on it and I'm going to blow you out of the water with the money I'm betting. You either have to find the money to take the other side of the bet or crawl away defeated.

    I bet you 7p that we vote to stay in. There. See if you can match that.
    Too rich for me.
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