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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    What is the difference being confident about your boxing skills as opposed to be considered arrogant?
    I am simply arrogant. I don't know what confidence IS.

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    Default Re: Confidence v Arrogance

    Its the same as 'envy' versus 'jealousy'.

    If I don't have something, and I'm envious of someone else, then I wish I could have that thing too.

    If I'm jealous, then I simply wish that he didnt have it either.

    So .... for me anyway, confidence is when you belive in yourself and in the tools you have in the ring. Nothing to do with the other guy.

    Arrogance is when it's about him. You think you're better than him..
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    Arrogance is when you think you are but have yet to show or be. You talk the loudest and about all and hope no one looks down and notices the puddle. Not always, but mostly. Some guys with an ounce of talent these days are groomed to be assholes first. Confidence is knowing who you are, knowing you belong in the moment and what you're capable of..proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Arrogance is when you think you are but have yet to show or be. You talk the loudest and about all and hope no one looks down and notices the puddle. Not always, but mostly. Some guys with an ounce of talent these days are groomed to be assholes first. Confidence is knowing who you are, knowing you belong in the moment and what you're capable of..proven.
    Thats cockiness

    I think arrogance is where you are confident but show no respect what so ever. Hamed was arrogant, Eubank was confident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Arrogance is when you think you are but have yet to show or be. You talk the loudest and about all and hope no one looks down and notices the puddle. Not always, but mostly. Some guys with an ounce of talent these days are groomed to be assholes first. Confidence is knowing who you are, knowing you belong in the moment and what you're capable of..proven.
    Thats cockiness

    I think arrogance is where you are confident but show no respect what so ever. Hamed was arrogant, Eubank was confident.
    Both Eubanks are arrogant. Still are, probably always will be and it does a poor job of masking their inferiority complex. The whole jodhpurs and monocle rubbish whilst lecturing everybody. It's quite clear he still has no idea what being either English or a Gentleman means and unfortunately his son has swallowed the same pill.

    I think you can be display a level of arrogance, without being a prick. You use it when you walk out on stage, or put forward a proposal or go for an interview. You have to surpass confidence and convince everyone that this is your space and you are more than capable of filling the shoes or taking on that role. It's a fine line though and not being able to listen when someone tells you you are on the wrong side is a bad habit to trap yourself with.

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    Your judging the nipper on the old mans eccentricities.

    Does jodhpurs and monocles, Harley's and Peterbuilt trucks really make someone arrogant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Your judging the nipper on the old mans eccentricities.

    Does jodhpurs and monocles, Harley's and Peterbuilt trucks really make someone arrogant?
    Yes, it makes them a complete cunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    Its the same as 'envy' versus 'jealousy'.

    If I don't have something, and I'm envious of someone else, then I wish I could have that thing too.

    If I'm jealous, then I simply wish that he didnt have it either.

    So .... for me anyway, confidence is when you belive in yourself and in the tools you have in the ring. Nothing to do with the other guy.

    Arrogance is when it's about him. You think you're better than him..
    Well said

    Ali was so confident he became arrogant.
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    Confidence is knowing you can win over your opponent and work hard to make it so training and keeping yourself fit for action. Arrogance is according to the USMC is writing a check with your mouth that your ass can't cash. Lots of guys have heard that and should pay attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    Confidence is knowing you can win over your opponent and work hard to make it so training and keeping yourself fit for action. Arrogance is according to the USMC is writing a check with your mouth that your ass can't cash. Lots of guys have heard that and should pay attention.
    I like that.

    I like the definitions of the difference between it in terms of proven record, personal perception and ability.
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    Default Re: Confidence v Arrogance

    Trinidad was confident...... Vargas was arrogant.

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    Default Re: Confidence v Arrogance

    Well guys like Holyfeild, Leonard, Spinks and so on were confident they felt they could win and would walk through hell top do so because they believed they could win and were better fighters. Lewis is a guy who was confident but got over the top to arrogance hence him getting koed.
    Last edited by Master; 03-26-2016 at 08:08 PM.

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    Default Re: Confidence v Arrogance

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Trinidad was confident...... Vargas was arrogant.
    Tito was silently confident and Vargas was arrogantly confident. Only difference is Vargas looked foolish afterwards whereas if Tito lost he would not have.
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