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Clinton seems to be nailed on and although I like Bernie Sanders, he's way left of where most of the Democrats ever elected have been.
The Demographics in America are moving to the Democratic side about 3% every four years.

I'm not sure about this...imo the sheep...era, uh people swing to both sides oh, every 6-10 years.
What validates my claim and disputes your claim is the Senate and Congress.. Since 2008, Democrats have lost 13 Senate seats, 69 congressional seats, and over 400 state legislative seats...& growing...doesn't sound like a 3% increase
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Assuming Trump doesn't reset the coalitions of voters and steal a big chunk of Democrats Hillary will win but long term America will look like Bernieland.
The prevalence of a popularity in left wing politics among younger people has almost always been the case though.

Today I disagree with this assessment. Please Google, youtube Ron Paul revolution(200 He spoke at many college campuses...but because mainstream media and the right wing-hate-machine media had a Virtual Ron Paul BLACK OUT...few know how many young people are flirting with libertarianism.
Again in 2012 Republican National committee changed rules that took delegates from Paul.. gave them to Romney. Paul had the biggest increase of youth voters over both parties when it came to voters under 25.


As people get older they will tend to become a little more conservative.
I agree.

The idea of a socialist country that may appear attractive in your teens and twenties become something a little more balanced as most people move into middle age.
True to a degree. 1910-1920 or so no less than 50 mayoral seats went to socialist candidates. From city council to Senate and Congress...American people voted them in. Socialism in America early 1900s under an aging Eugene Debs wasn't limited to youth.


There's been a gigantic sea change in people born after 1980. During the 50s-1980 people used to split 50-50 roughly when they got old enough to vote, the number remained a few points either side of fifty for decades. Now 1980s and afterwards are overwhelmingly lefties. The GOP is increasingly the party of older white folks.

I agree the GOP is, has & will always be primarily white. Most young who do go democratic is not a choice on desire, rather the best of the worst.

After the 2012 the GOP produced a report (google gop autopsy) on the failed 2012 campaign and they came to the conclusion that they had to pass comprehensive immigration reform if they were ever to become competitive in national elections again. They started off well with Rubio pushing an immigration bill but then the base rebelled so much that Rubio ended up voting against his own bill so he didn't get primaried. Then Donald Trump and his wall came along.

IMO this is partially true. Hispanics can tip the vote Democratic, if whites who espouse conservative values stay home. It is also a side swipe to African-Americans. Conservative have many articles, columns questioning how to court the Hispanic vote, but not the African-American vote.

The elephant in the room I argue is the bullshit war against a stateless enemy called: The war on terror. Many Moderates to Conservative flip flopped and no longer support the war on terror. No longer discuss WMD. Those who do speak on waging this stupid ass war against stateless enemies, are losing voters more so than those who don't support immigration reform.


From about 2020 or 2024 the Democrats will be unbeatable in national elections if the voting bases stay the same. Trump might just shake things up though.
By 2020...America will probably have lost value to Transglobal corporations. She along with China, Russia, British will be under the control of said trans global corporation(s).. some may call it the new world order, shadow government.
End result the republic that practiced a democracy via a voting process.will be a historical concept.

Less we forget American founding fathers saw fit to give voting rights to white men......



Who owned property.