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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Adamek is better than Barrett, Fury was unbeaten and went on to easily beat Hayes best opponent and Mansour was unbeaten and a more dangerous opposition than Ruiz at that point. He also faced Visinia who was unbeaten and Glazkov who was unbeaten and Cunningham should have got the decision against.

    Cunningham doesnt have the appeal and cant pick and choose a route to the world title over journeymen. He had a hard run at heavy. Even if he did he would have faltered at the very top as Haye did. He would have a chance against Wilder though, who would still be better than Valuev.
    He lost to Adamek,Fury and Glazkov. He beat Mansour, but who has Mansour ever beat? And yes, he beat an unbeaten Visinia. Yeah , a 10-0 novice fighting 6 rounders, who's victims had racked up a whopping 22 wins between them. And what's Visinia done since? Fuck all.
    The only name you mentioned he genuinely lost to was Fury, the best heavyweight in the world and better than the fighter who easily beat Haye.

    My point is Cunningham didnt face tired old journeymen he faced big, strong, undefeated ambitious fighters. If he fought the fighters Haye fought he would have the same wins.

    Haye didnt want Cunningham or Adamek.
    Last edited by ross; 03-26-2016 at 09:33 AM.

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    And my point is that Haye would've beat everyone Cunningham beat at HW and Haye would've beat Cunningham ! That's about all that counts really.
    It doesn't really matter because we'll probably never know.
    We don't KNOW how it's going to pan out with Haye, or indeed any Boxer who has 3 years out of the ring and a Shoulder injury that has had surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    And my point is that Haye would've beat everyone Cunningham beat at HW and Haye would've beat Cunningham ! That's about all that counts really.
    It doesn't really matter because we'll probably never know.
    We don't KNOW how it's going to pan out with Haye, or indeed any Boxer who has 3 years out of the ring and a Shoulder injury that has had surgery.
    In your opinion.

    There is a reason he fought the level he fought and has now reverted back to a poor level.

    Haye avoided any dangers and fooled people like yourself in to thinkng he was a genuine threat to Klitschko and some fools have come out of the woodwork signing his praises as if his last fight meant something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Adamek is better than Barrett, Fury was unbeaten and went on to easily beat Hayes best opponent and Mansour was unbeaten and a more dangerous opposition than Ruiz at that point. He also faced Visinia who was unbeaten and Glazkov who was unbeaten and Cunningham should have got the decision against.

    Cunningham doesnt have the appeal and cant pick and choose a route to the world title over journeymen. He had a hard run at heavy. Even if he did he would have faltered at the very top as Haye did. He would have a chance against Wilder though, who would still be better than Valuev.
    He lost to Adamek,Fury and Glazkov. He beat Mansour, but who has Mansour ever beat? And yes, he beat an unbeaten Visinia. Yeah , a 10-0 novice fighting 6 rounders, who's victims had racked up a whopping 22 wins between them. And what's Visinia done since? Fuck all.
    The only name you mentioned he genuinely lost to was Fury, the best heavyweight in the world and better than the fighter who easily beat Haye.

    My point is Cunningham didnt face tired old journeymen he faced big, strong, undefeated ambitious fighters. If he fought the fighters Haye fought he would have the same wins.

    Haye didnt want Cunningham or Adamek.
    Cunningham does not beat Valuev or Ruiz at the point Haye beat those two.
    Last edited by Master; 03-26-2016 at 08:58 PM.
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    Default Re: Haye comeback fight on free to air tv

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Adamek is better than Barrett, Fury was unbeaten and went on to easily beat Hayes best opponent and Mansour was unbeaten and a more dangerous opposition than Ruiz at that point. He also faced Visinia who was unbeaten and Glazkov who was unbeaten and Cunningham should have got the decision against.

    Cunningham doesnt have the appeal and cant pick and choose a route to the world title over journeymen. He had a hard run at heavy. Even if he did he would have faltered at the very top as Haye did. He would have a chance against Wilder though, who would still be better than Valuev.
    He lost to Adamek,Fury and Glazkov. He beat Mansour, but who has Mansour ever beat? And yes, he beat an unbeaten Visinia. Yeah , a 10-0 novice fighting 6 rounders, who's victims had racked up a whopping 22 wins between them. And what's Visinia done since? Fuck all.
    The only name you mentioned he genuinely lost to was Fury, the best heavyweight in the world and better than the fighter who easily beat Haye.

    My point is Cunningham didnt face tired old journeymen he faced big, strong, undefeated ambitious fighters. If he fought the fighters Haye fought he would have the same wins.

    Haye didnt want Cunningham or Adamek.
    Cunningham does not best Valuev or Ruiz at the point Haye beat those two.
    Come off it master!

    46 year old Holyfield should have win against Valuev!! Cunnngham would have run rungs round him. Ruiz had retired and was what? 40?

    You added the "at the point Haye beat them" as if it was like the pinnacles of their career. Its only because they were at that point that Haye beat them.

    He only takes fighters he sees big weaknesses in. Mormeck had been knocked out by ONeil Bell, Macaranelli had been hurt and dropped by Bruce Scott and knocked out by Lee Swaby. Barrett was a journeyman who actually dropped Haye. Ruiz was done! Harrison had been poleaxed and proven to be hesitant. Even Klitschko, Haye thought he could blitz him like Corrie Sanders.

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    Default Re: Haye comeback fight on free to air tv

    You are saying everything with hindsight.

    Valuev would be too big for Cunningham and Ruiz came in the best condition for a long time because he genuinely thought he would beat Haye.
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