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    My thoughts & prayers are with Nick Blackwell & family. Hoping he makes a complete recovery. Always saddens me to see one of our boxing family seriously hurt
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    Dont know if you guys who havent got facebook can see this:

    I cant find a full length one elsewhere. But this video shows Eubank Snr in the 5th round telling his son the ref isnt doing his job and he needs to finish this with body shots not head shots as Blackwell is getting hurt and there is no point to that. In the 5th! That should really tell you all something when the fight went on into the 10th round.

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    I think that we have blamed everyone possible in the aftermath of this, the ref, the promotors, JR, the corner, ourselves

    It really does draw comparrisons to Bob Dylans 'Who killed Davey Moore' its well worth a watch even if you don't like him just for the similarities




    Who killed Davey Moore?
    Why an' what's the reason for?

    "Not I", said the referee
    "Don't point your finger at me
    I could've stopped it in the eighth
    An' maybe kept him from his fate
    But the crowd would've booed, I'm sure
    At not gettin' their money's worth
    It's too bad that he had to go
    But there was a pressure on me too, you know
    It wasn't me that made him fall
    No, you can't blame me at all"

    Who killed Davey Moore?
    Why an' what's the reason for?

    "Not us", said the angry crowd
    Whose screams filled the arena loud
    "It's too bad he died that night
    But we just like to see a fight
    We didn't mean for him to meet his death
    We just meant to see some sweat
    There ain't nothing wrong in that
    It wasn't us that made him fall
    No, you can't blame us at all"

    Who killed Davey Moore?
    Why an' what's the reason for?

    "Not me", said his manager
    Puffing on a big cigar
    "It's hard to say, it's hard to tell
    I always thought that he was well
    It's too bad for his wife an' kids he's dead
    But if he was sick he should've said
    It wasn't me that made him fall
    No, you can't blame me at all"

    Who killed Davey Moore
    Why an' what's the reason for?

    "Not me", says the gambling man
    With his ticket stub still in his hand
    "My wasn't me that knocked him down
    My hands never touched him none
    I didn't commit no ugly sin
    Anyway, I put money on him to win
    It wasn't me that made him fall
    No, you can't blame me at all"

    Who killed Davey Moore
    Why an' what's the reason for?

    "Not me", says the boxing writer
    Pounding print on his old typewriter
    Sayin', "Boxing ain't to blame
    There's just as much danger in a football game"
    Sayin', "Fist fighting is here to stay
    It's just the old American way
    It wasn't me that made him fall
    No, you can't blame me at all"

    Who killed Davey Moore?
    Why an' what's the reason for?

    "Not me", says the man whose fists
    Laid him low in a cloud of mist
    Who came here from Cuba's door
    Where boxing ain't allowed no more
    "I hit him, I hit him, yes, it's true
    But that's what I am paid to do
    Don't say 'murder,' don't say 'kill'
    It was destiny, it was God's will"

    Who killed Davey Moore
    Why an' what's the reason for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Dont know if you guys who havent got facebook can see this:

    I cant find a full length one elsewhere. But this video shows Eubank Snr in the 5th round telling his son the ref isnt doing his job and he needs to finish this with body shots not head shots as Blackwell is getting hurt and there is no point to that. In the 5th! That should really tell you all something when the fight went on into the 10th round.

    http://www.facebook.com/realboxinggu...1138897133427/
    I'm sorry but I think this is getting stupid. Not only is the ref to blame , but Sr. Is some sort of Messiah!
    I've even read said somewhere that Eubank Sr. Saved Blackwell's life ffs!
    Are you telling me that the fight should've been stopped at the end of the 5th? I'm pretty certain that Blackwell had some success and stunned Jr. After the 5th. (e.g.When Jr. Was busy chopsing off to Saunders like the fucking prick he is!)
    All Sr. Was saying to his fighter was his usual mix of clichés and horseshit between rounds, and then standing back to admire his work for 10 seconds. Anything he said of any relevance is purely coincidental , HE IS NOT THE MESSIAH!
    Finally, if Sr. Is some sort of soothsayer, does that mean Jr. Is a brutal murderer because he didn't want to listen to the Great one and virtually told him to Shut up one time?
    Even between the last 2 rounds, you could hear Ronnie Davis saying to Jr. "Do it your way", trying to calm Jr. Down because he was getting fucked off with what the Messiah was saying.
    It's funny how these things don't get quoted after the event, but then again they're not sensational enough are they?

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    Eubank only said go to the body because there was no way Blackwell was going to get knocked out. Nick's chin was solid.

    The only time there could have been a stoppage was when Junior had Blackwell cornered and thew a lot of punches but they were being blocked. If the fight was stopped then then there would have been outrage.

    In hindsight it could have been stopped then but 99 out of 100 it would have been ok to carry on.
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    Quote attributed to Eubank

    "But if he does to stop it and you keep on beating him like this – one, he is getting hurt. "And two, it is you who will have to make a decision. Why has the referee not stopped the fight? I don't know why. "But maybe you should not leave it to the referee. "So you are not going to take him out to the face, you are going to take him out to the body." -

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanatogen View Post
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    "But if he does to stop it and you keep on beating him like this – one, he is getting hurt. "And two, it is you who will have to make a decision. Why has the referee not stopped the fight? I don't know why. "But maybe you should not leave it to the referee. "So you are not going to take him out to the face, you are going to take him out to the body." -
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    Have not watched the fight but hope Blackwell rebounds to live a quality life. Yet another tragic example that while we sit behind keyboards and yell at the tube, there truly are no "bums" climbing into the ring regardless of ability level. They all get punched in the skull, and the damage is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sanatogen View Post
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    "But if he does to stop it and you keep on beating him like this – one, he is getting hurt. "And two, it is you who will have to make a decision. Why has the referee not stopped the fight? I don't know why. "But maybe you should not leave it to the referee. "So you are not going to take him out to the face, you are going to take him out to the body." -
    There it is.
    To me, that's typical Sr. Talking in riddles. But if you want to believe that he has some 6th sense, that's Up to you.
    So , in summary, in your book he's saying "don't bother with head, because you'll hurt him, but give his ribs a good hiding and finish him off!!! Yeah, loads of empathy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanatogen View Post
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    "But if he does to stop it and you keep on beating him like this – one, he is getting hurt. "And two, it is you who will have to make a decision. Why has the referee not stopped the fight? I don't know why. "But maybe you should not leave it to the referee. "So you are not going to take him out to the face, you are going to take him out to the body." -
    It's clear to me he's urging Jr to take it out of the refs hands. In other words - knock him the fuck out.

    Two rounds later old Eubank told Jr - "get this guy out of here, I don't want it going the distance"
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    The way Eubank was playing around in the last round I think he took pitty on Blackwell. The lull in the action gave the ref the opportunity to have Blacwell looked at. Maybe one more uppercut and it could have been worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    Dont know if you guys who havent got facebook can see this:

    I cant find a full length one elsewhere. But this video shows Eubank Snr in the 5th round telling his son the ref isnt doing his job and he needs to finish this with body shots not head shots as Blackwell is getting hurt and there is no point to that. In the 5th! That should really tell you all something when the fight went on into the 10th round.

    http://www.facebook.com/realboxinggu...1138897133427/
    I'm sorry but I think this is getting stupid. Not only is the ref to blame , but Sr. Is some sort of Messiah!
    I've even read said somewhere that Eubank Sr. Saved Blackwell's life ffs!
    Are you telling me that the fight should've been stopped at the end of the 5th? I'm pretty certain that Blackwell had some success and stunned Jr. After the 5th. (e.g.When Jr. Was busy chopsing off to Saunders like the fucking prick he is!)
    All Sr. Was saying to his fighter was his usual mix of clichés and horseshit between rounds, and then standing back to admire his work for 10 seconds. Anything he said of any relevance is purely coincidental , HE IS NOT THE MESSIAH!
    Finally, if Sr. Is some sort of soothsayer, does that mean Jr. Is a brutal murderer because he didn't want to listen to the Great one and virtually told him to Shut up one time?
    Even between the last 2 rounds, you could hear Ronnie Davis saying to Jr. "Do it your way", trying to calm Jr. Down because he was getting fucked off with what the Messiah was saying.
    It's funny how these things don't get quoted after the event, but then again they're not sensational enough are they?
    Eubank,Haters will hate .
    Seriously though, Refs leave a lot to be desired. I've always been with Ron Lipton 100% regarding many refs out there and why they are there.Its is not No1 for the fighters sake as should be the no 1.
    Yet here we see Eubank Snr being hated on cause he is there first for the fighters sake. No messiah shit,no ego shit, simply fighters safety through experience and logic, thats all. The video to me shows that there is a wide gap in peoples awareness refs included and Refs need to be taught signs and never fear backlash from a crowd of blood lusters because that does occur still. I recon Refs need to be accountable and liable through whoever they work for its them who should cover all insurance, not a fighter.
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