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    Default Re: is this the most exciting period of hw boxing ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
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    Yea but when you are at the age of 40 you lose something regardless he is much slower now then when he fought Haye and it showed in his fight with Jennings before Fury. I am not saying he is shot or anything but he was at his best in 34 or 35 he is much slower now.
    he looked bad against Jennings because he was stopped from holding

    hed have looked slow in a number of his other fights if he had have been stopped from holding, even against haye

    in terms of results it was his peak

    at 26 I was faster, stronger, fitter than when I was 32, but I was a better footballer at 32, at my peak
    Well imagine what you be at 40 years old Wald prime was 2010 or 2011 was last years of it. Holding or not all have to do is look at how he is throwing his punches are slow as fuck. Yet again no amount of craft makes up for his body being that old just not happening. I mean i can not even believe you are trying to say at 40 that Wald is at his best. I bet if you played soccer when your in your 40s you wont be as good as you were at 26 or at 32 the body can only do so much even with drugs today.
    in terms of results it was his peak, I saw his punches against pulev as fast and accurate as they had ever been

    he looked shit against Jennings because he was stopped from holding

    whats soccer? if I improved from 26 to 32 it means by 40 I would have been playing for united
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    Yea but when you are at the age of 40 you lose something regardless he is much slower now then when he fought Haye and it showed in his fight with Jennings before Fury. I am not saying he is shot or anything but he was at his best in 34 or 35 he is much slower now.
    he looked bad against Jennings because he was stopped from holding

    hed have looked slow in a number of his other fights if he had have been stopped from holding, even against haye

    in terms of results it was his peak

    at 26 I was faster, stronger, fitter than when I was 32, but I was a better footballer at 32, at my peak
    Well imagine what you be at 40 years old Wald prime was 2010 or 2011 was last years of it. Holding or not all have to do is look at how he is throwing his punches are slow as fuck. Yet again no amount of craft makes up for his body being that old just not happening. I mean i can not even believe you are trying to say at 40 that Wald is at his best. I bet if you played soccer when your in your 40s you wont be as good as you were at 26 or at 32 the body can only do so much even with drugs today.
    in terms of results it was his peak, I saw his punches against pulev as fast and accurate as they had ever been

    he looked shit against Jennings because he was stopped from holding

    whats soccer? if I improved from 26 to 32 it means by 40 I would have been playing for united
    Football in the US is called soccer which is what your talking about at least i think it is. Pulev is slow as fuck and Jennings is nothing special either the division is not better then it was 2010 Wald is just slower cant pull the trigger most of the time now. The man is 40 with 68 fights no one is in prime or peak anymore with those numbers no one is. So are you pro now that you 40 are you better by the sounds of it no because if your 40 your in a decline only going down from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post

    Football in the US is called soccer which is what your talking about at least i think it is. Pulev is slow as fuck and Jennings is nothing special either the division is not better then it was 2010 Wald is just slower cant pull the trigger most of the time now. The man is 40 with 68 fights no one is in prime or peak anymore with those numbers no one is. So are you pro now that you 40 are you better by the sounds of it no because if your 40 your in a decline only going down from here.
    Jennings is no world beater and neither is pulev but they are in wlads top 4 victories in my opinion

    everyone is different, some improve with age, some don't, some peak at 20, some at 40

    wlad could never pull the trigger when under pressure, he held and lent on for as many rounds as it took to tire the opponent and only then did he start punching

    and injury ruined my dream of playing for England
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    You are crap enough to play for Utd.
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    Default Re: is this the most exciting period of hw boxing ever?

    These are the kinds of reports that perpetuate the current myth concernong the heavyweights. A portion of an article by Bryce Wilson. Boxing News and results, Best source for the latest Boxing News, updated 24/7 - Fightnews.com

    In facing Takam, Parker is set to take a giant leap up in the quality of opponent. It is a fight that should serve as a an accurate barometer as to whether the Kiwi prospect really is as good as some people believe or whether much more work remains to be done before he is ready to mix in the heady climes of the elite in the division, along with the Fury’s, Klitschko’s and Wilders of the world.

    You have got to be kidding me. The writer questions whether Parker is ready for the elites and then names the elites as Fury, Klitscho and Wilder? Wlad has one foot in retirement and most likely did the last 3 years, Fury's claim is beating him like Marciano over Louis and Wilder has yet to fight a legitimate threat since Stiverne. These are the heavyweight elites? Why don’t these writers speak the truth for a change and just say the division is wide open and Parker is taking a bigger leap then any of the present champions thus far?

    Fact of the matter is, this division was just cooked out for 15 years and is presently just started to germinate. There is potential as already stated is there. Some good and possible great talent around but the truth is yet to be realized for any of them. As yet no dominant players but 20 belt holders. The world seems so hard up for a heavyweight division that it forwards the fables and urban legends like the writer above. The elephant in the room as always with this division is the fact that its been the lamest division overall in the history of the sport. Any light creeps in and people fly off the deep end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
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    Ali - over rated
    Frazier - too small
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    What a dumb, f*cking post. Especially following the first one.
    This guy can't be serious.
    good point well made, great argument, full of facts and substance

    hard to disagree with
    Fucking brilliant!! Love it.😂😂😂👏👏

    Yeah... haha... brilliant. I figured if I had to actually give reasons why AJ-Haye-Wilder could not possibly be in the same "excitement" universe as Ali-Frazier-Foreman...... something is terribly wrong.

    Then I read the following statement....





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    Eric started the thread as a piss take and is not serious about most things.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    These are the kinds of reports that perpetuate the current myth concernong the heavyweights. A portion of an article by Bryce Wilson. Boxing News and results, Best source for the latest Boxing News, updated 24/7 - Fightnews.com

    In facing Takam, Parker is set to take a giant leap up in the quality of opponent. It is a fight that should serve as a an accurate barometer as to whether the Kiwi prospect really is as good as some people believe or whether much more work remains to be done before he is ready to mix in the heady climes of the elite in the division, along with the Fury’s, Klitschko’s and Wilders of the world.

    You have got to be kidding me. The writer questions whether Parker is ready for the elites and then names the elites as Fury, Klitscho and Wilder? Wlad has one foot in retirement and most likely did the last 3 years, Fury's claim is beating him like Marciano over Louis and Wilder has yet to fight a legitimate threat since Stiverne. These are the heavyweight elites? Why don’t these writers speak the truth for a change and just say the division is wide open and Parker is taking a bigger leap then any of the present champions thus far?

    Fact of the matter is, this division was just cooked out for 15 years and is presently just started to germinate. There is potential as already stated is there. Some good and possible great talent around but the truth is yet to be realized for any of them. As yet no dominant players but 20 belt holders. The world seems so hard up for a heavyweight division that it forwards the fables and urban legends like the writer above. The elephant in the room as always with this division is the fact that its been the lamest division overall in the history of the sport. Any light creeps in and people fly off the deep end.
    This is what I say. Fighting someone at wilders level shouldn't be considered a top fighter kind of fight. Wilder is still very raw and in no way a great fighter. He is hardly even a good fighter. Same as fury. He is average. But all of these HWs are basically saying they aren't ready for these average fighters.

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