1973 Foreman vs 2008 Wlad Klitschko

[Master]

yeah he held every time they were any where closer than on the end of his punches

Tyson would have not allowed that to happen. therefore it is up to the opponents to work out a way to beat that style. That was something they could not do for 10 years and near record defenses.

[erics44]

yeah he held every time they were any where closer than on the end of his punches

Tyson would have not allowed that to happen. therefore it is up to the opponents to work out a way to beat that style. That was something they could not do for 10 years and near record defenses.

very true

he managed to cheat his way to the title and then 10 years of defences

but the amazing thing is people praise that, the mind boggles

anyway fury did very well, im delighted that he won the fight and I hope he knocks him out next time

[ross]

I think people are confusing the the two versions of Foreman.

The first was clumsy and wild swinging powerhouse. The second was more measured better footwork, strong but less energy.

Foreman also got dropped and hurt plenty in the 70's by much lighter fighters than Klitschko.

[brocktonblockbust]

I think people are confusing the the two versions of Foreman.

The first was clumsy and wild swinging powerhouse. The second was more measured better footwork, strong but less energy.

Foreman also got dropped and hurt plenty in the 70's by much lighter fighters than Klitschko.

Dropped and hurt by Ron The Beast Lyle is all. Came back and nearly committed a homicide in the ring.

[ross]

I think people are confusing the the two versions of Foreman.

The first was clumsy and wild swinging powerhouse. The second was more measured better footwork, strong but less energy.

Foreman also got dropped and hurt plenty in the 70's by much lighter fighters than Klitschko.

Dropped and hurt by Ron The Beast Lyle is all. Came back and nearly committed a homicide in the ring.

He got wobbled by a skinny white bloke in the 5 man tournament, dropped by Jimmy Young and knocked out by Ali!

[brocktonblockbust]

I think people are confusing the the two versions of Foreman.

The first was clumsy and wild swinging powerhouse. The second was more measured better footwork, strong but less energy.

Foreman also got dropped and hurt plenty in the 70's by much lighter fighters than Klitschko.

Dropped and hurt by Ron The Beast Lyle is all. Came back and nearly committed a homicide in the ring.

He got wobbled by a skinny white bloke in the 5 man tournament, dropped by Jimmy Young and knocked out by Ali!

Getting hurt or dropped does not detract from a Fighter's greatness. But getting smoked and Sparked by lamon Brewster Corey Sanders and some other guy certainly does detract from any kind of greatness a fighter may be suspected to have

[TitoFan]

I think people are confusing the the two versions of Foreman.

The first was clumsy and wild swinging powerhouse. The second was more measured better footwork, strong but less energy.

Foreman also got dropped and hurt plenty in the 70's by much lighter fighters than Klitschko.

Dropped and hurt by Ron The Beast Lyle is all. Came back and nearly committed a homicide in the ring.

He got wobbled by a skinny white bloke in the 5 man tournament, dropped by Jimmy Young and knocked out by Ali!

Getting hurt or dropped does not detract from a Fighter's greatness. But getting smoked and Sparked by lamon Brewster Corey Sanders and some other guy certainly does detract from any kind of greatness a fighter may be suspected to have

Ross is defending Wlad here because if he doesn't he feels it may detract from Fury's victory in some way. I disagree. What Fury did was remarkable, in that he did what no other fighter has had the intestinal fortitude to do in about a decade. But Wlad is still one of the worst HW title holders in quite some time, and I agree with eric, in that Wlad perfected the art of surviving by holding, mauling, clinching, fouling, and using other questionable techniques to neutralize dangers... real and perceived.

Fury beat a fighter who threw 19 punches a round, roughly one every 10 seconds.... landing 4, of which probably 3.9 of them were range-finding punches just to make sure his chin was out of harm's way. All credit in the world to Fury, for doing what I was dying for someone to do before Wlad retired..... either knock him out or humiliate him. Fury did the latter. Next time, I hope he does the former.