Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
Ono, I tend to agree.

I actually looked at The Rings list last night and thought it was a f'n joke.

I think Canelo being number 7 or whatever is laughable, he's hiding from 2 divisions he can't rise to the top of either. But he's ranked far higher than the guys he hides from(except GGG)

GGG refuses to fight Ward for years, Ward has a FAR greater resume but GGG is above him? That makes no sense. Kovalev above Ward makes no sense. If Kovalev beats him after Ward moved up, then Kovalev should be above him but not until then. Neither GGG or Kovalev have proven nearly as much. It is after all about who you fight.

Speaking of which, like Ono said. Brook has no business on a P4P list with his abysmal list of opponents. Does he have the talent, quite possibly, but sneaking by Porter does not make you anywhere near P4P and his shitty opponents since being champ should hurt his standing not help it.
Agree with everything you've said here. GGG, Brook and Kovalev are all talented, and GGG and Kovalev may even be a level or so above Kell, but their overall level of opponent isn't all that different. The only difference is the manor in which they have been dispatched. I don't see Kovalev beating Ward if and when they do finally meet, and it's difficult to give GGG a huge amount of credibility while he is still fighting B- level opposition whilst using his promoter to call out guys as light as Kell Brook.

The other thing that does annoy me is the lack of a Tyson Fury. Not because i believe he should be on there, because he probably shouldn't - based on ability and talent (being real, he'd be nowhere near). It annoys me because most ranking organisations had Wlad in the top 3-5. A victory over him in his own back yard should propel you into the top 10 - fair is fair.

I have made my own opinion clear about Wlad and why he should never be ranked in the top echelons of a p4p ranking system in the past and my argument has always based on my belief that if Wlad was the same exact size and weight as everybody else in the world, he wouldn't clock the top 100, and seeing how he struggled to do anything against Fury (a fighter of similar size/reach etc) i am perfectly happy with assumption

But getting back to my point, if Wlad was in the top 3-5 beforehand in the Rings p4p rankings, they should have the decency to have him in the top 10 at the very least. A win over a supposed A+ level fighter (regardless of the era) should probably rank higher than a cluster of wins over B-/C+ level cannon fodder. So in conclusion, i think the rankings are a load of shite haha.