Amir Khan v Saul Alvarez

[Silkeyjoe]

Khan cant lose this fight. Gonna be a onesided schooling. Canelos face be a bloody mess by the end of the fight. Khan at 4/1 with Marathonbet. Easy money!

[Master]

Khan cant lose this fight. Gonna be a onesided schooling. Canelos face be a bloody mess by the end of the fight. Khan at 4/1 with Marathonbet. Easy money!

You are crazy, no way Khan wins.

[Silkeyjoe]

Khan cant lose this fight. Gonna be a onesided schooling. Canelos face be a bloody mess by the end of the fight. Khan at 4/1 with Marathonbet. Easy money!

You are crazy, no way Khan wins.

Its my Ross moment I really just dont think Canelo is any good

[SugarBoxing]

Canelo fought 30-40 taxi bums, but the real fight is the real fight, nothing can replace it. His team did the right thing before throwing him in last 5 fights. Chavez Sr. aslo started like that and it gave him INSANE confidence later in this career. Khan has been in tougher fights , it wore him down, his confidence and chin are under question. Easy win for Canelo

[Master]

Mike Tyson said it best: "Everybody's got plans. Until they get hit."

Amir Khan was almost alone in his belief he could jump two weight divisions and beat one of the most fearsome fighters on the planet in Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez.

Even his trainer didn't sound convinced. Most people thought it would play out like it did: Khan would frustrate Alvarez for a few rounds before walking onto a big one.

Virgil Hunter, the man charged with hatching a plan to keep Alvarez at bay for 12 rounds, was distancing himself from the fight the moment it was announced. What madness is this? If you really must. It was your idea, in case anyone asks…

Hunter knew what most people knew, namely that Khan would be able to run but he wouldn't be able to hide.

Alvarez's promoter, Oscar de la Hoya, crudely characterised the fight as "speed versus power". But Alvarez is a little bit more than a club-wielding caveman. The Mexican made adjustments, cut down the ring, found his range, executed his feints and eventually went KABOOM!



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/36240559

[Master]

But just because you told Khan so, there is no need for triumphalism. What Khan did in Las Vegas on Saturday was brave beyond belief and should not be sneered at. If only there were more like him, boxing would be all the brighter.

"Amir Khan is one of the bravest fighters in the world," said De la Hoya. "Maybe he's too brave for his own good but he's willing to be great."

What fight two of the three judges were watching is anyone's guess. One, Glenn Feldman, had the champion 3-2 ahead and another, Glenn Trowbridge, 4-1 ahead when the hammer of Thor brought proceedings to a sudden conclusion. Just about everyone in press row had Khan at least three rounds up.

Maybe the knockout was for the best: had Khan boxed Alvarez's head off for 12 rounds and lost the decision, the pain would have been even worse.

There will be plenty of pain for Khan, and not just physical. Having spent the past two years being teased into thinking he was going to fight first Floyd Mayweather, then Manny Pacquiao, and consequently wishing some of the best years of his career away, this was maybe Khan's last pitch for greatness.

The good news for Khan, and British fight fans, is he can walk straight into a match with Kell Brook, the IBF welterweight champion and his bitter cross-Pennine rival.

For several years, Khan has claimed Brook is not at his level. But that argument becomes more difficult to sustain when there are pictures flying around the world of him flat on his back having been knocked cold for a third time.

Khan might have lost against Alvarez, but he showed enough in defeat to make a fight against Brook compelling. The suspicion is the outcome would be similar.

As for Alvarez, the Mexican boxing royalty sitting ringside - Julio Cesar Chavez, Marco Antonio Barrera and Juan Manuel Marquez - would surely have approved. There were those in Mexico who doubted Alvarez's potential to join that list of greats, especially after he was outclassed by Mayweather in 2013.

But Alvarez has improved and with more knockouts like that on his show reel, the critics won't - just like Khan on Saturday - have any legs to stand on.

What a way to christen the magnificent new T-Mobile Arena and what a relief for De la Hoya. A couple of years ago his Golden Boy Promotions outfit was in choppy waters and looked like sinking.

But with Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao having announced their retirements following their hugely anti-climactic fight last year, De la Hoya has the face of boxing on his books again.

It's a face De la Hoya knows well, because for many years it was his own. But now De la Hoya faces a dilemma: risk his golden goose against the rabid Gennady Golovkin this autumn or let their beef marinate a little longer?

Kazakhstan's Golovkin, who has a frightening record of 32 knockouts from 35 contests and is the WBA and IBF middleweight champion, was ringside for Alvarez's demolition of Khan and would appear to be up for the fight.

De la Hoya and Alvarez appear to be keen as well. But De la Hoya's assertion that "we have four aces and they have a pair of twos" in the negotiation stakes does not quite ring true.

After beating Khan, Alvarez, a natural light-middleweight, said he was happy to fight Golovkin at the proper middleweight limit of 160lbs, instead of a catch-weight 155lbs. But only a few days ago he poured cold water on the idea of fighting Golovkin, saying the Kazakh hadn't earned the fight. Let's just wait and see how those talks pan out.

For the moment, boxing should reflect on a job well done. It all went just to plan on Saturday, at least for most of us. Khan was bold as brass and rolled the dice, while Alvarez provided the fireworks. Just what Vegas is all about.

[Master]

Britain's Amir Khan says he has no regrets after his bid for the world middleweight title was ended with a sixth-round knockout by Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez in Las Vegas.

Khan, a natural welterweight fighting beyond 147lbs for the first time, started well but was floored by a huge right hand from the defending champion.

The defeat was the 29-year-old's fourth of his 35-fight career.

"This challenge came and it was very hard to turn down," Khan said.

"I want to be the best, I want to fight the best and that's why I took this fight.

"I showed my bravery by getting in the ring with Canelo, but this is boxing. I wanted to go out there as a champion."

Khan jumped two weight divisions to challenge Mexican Alvarez and was bidding to become only the third former light-welterweight world champion to win a middleweight world title.

"I was unfortunate that I didn't make it to the end," he added. "I tried my best and I want to say thank you for the support, but I will probably go down to 147 now."

Alvarez, who has won 33 of his 47 career victories by a knockout, said patience was key to his victory.

"He was a very fast fighter and I knew things would be complicated at the beginning," he said. "But I knew the time would come in my favour.

"Many people talk about my power but I've got many more qualities in the ring. People see that and that's what happened in the ring.

"Someone who comes in to box obviously gives you more trouble.

"But someone who comes in to press and attack you gives you the opportunity for a nice fight."

[Primo Carnera]

Khan cant lose this fight. Gonna be a onesided schooling. Canelos face be a bloody mess by the end of the fight. Khan at 4/1 with Marathonbet. Easy money!

You are crazy, no way Khan wins.

Its my Ross moment I really just dont think Canelo is any good

I can understand people feeling Canelo is overrated and I believe taking this fight is a lose-lose and could come back to bite him in the ass.
But I'm curious, where would you put him in
a. The LMW ratings ?and
b. The MW ratings ?
Add to that , where you would put Khan in the WW ratings?

[Silkeyjoe]

At LMW i believe Lara, Charlo and Andrade are better than him. He is slightly better than Trout. LMW is a really poor division in my mind.

At MW I dont rate him. Completely unproven and I could very easily see Lee, Quillen or Sanders beat him.

Khan at welter is different as welter is pretty strong. I dont think there is much between Bradley, Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook and Garcia and would probably have Khan at least 50/50 with any of them. Pac is probably still the man in the div with him beating Bradley so easily and would make him a decent fav over Khan.

[Primo Carnera]

At LMW i believe Lara, Charlo and Andrade are better than him. He is slightly better than Trout. LMW is a really poor division in my mind.

At MW I dont rate him. Completely unproven and I could very easily see Lee, Quillen or Sanders beat him.

Khan at welter is different as welter is pretty strong. I dont think there is much between Bradley, Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook and Garcia and would probably have Khan at least 50/50 with any of them. Pac is probably still the man in the div with him beating Bradley so easily and would make him a decent fav over Khan.

Well , fair enough . We'll have to agree to disagree. As soon as you said Lee would beat Canelo, I knew we'd be miles apart. 😉

[Silkeyjoe]

At LMW i believe Lara, Charlo and Andrade are better than him. He is slightly better than Trout. LMW is a really poor division in my mind.

At MW I dont rate him. Completely unproven and I could very easily see Lee, Quillen or Sanders beat him.

Khan at welter is different as welter is pretty strong. I dont think there is much between Bradley, Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook and Garcia and would probably have Khan at least 50/50 with any of them. Pac is probably still the man in the div with him beating Bradley so easily and would make him a decent fav over Khan.

Well , fair enough . We'll have to agree to disagree. As soon as you said Lee would beat Canelo, I knew we'd be miles apart. 😉

A 6'2 Middle with genuine power could be a handful for Canelo. Id definitely give him a shot against Canelo. He had close fights with Saunders and Quillen.

[p4pking]

At LMW i believe Lara, Charlo and Andrade are better than him. He is slightly better than Trout. LMW is a really poor division in my mind.

At MW I dont rate him. Completely unproven and I could very easily see Lee, Quillen or Sanders beat him.

Khan at welter is different as welter is pretty strong. I dont think there is much between Bradley, Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook and Garcia and would probably have Khan at least 50/50 with any of them. Pac is probably still the man in the div with him beating Bradley so easily and would make him a decent fav over Khan.

Did you have Lara beating Canelo when they fought? I just can't see it myself. Kind of agree on Charlo, assuming you mean Jermell.... I don't understand why it's his brother and not him facing Trout next, although it's still a good crossroads fight I think Jermell is clearly the more talented. Andrade seems to be doing fuck all, he looks to have one of the best jabs in the sport and I can understand favouring him over Canelo, but he just isn't doing anything.

[Silkeyjoe]

At LMW i believe Lara, Charlo and Andrade are better than him. He is slightly better than Trout. LMW is a really poor division in my mind.

At MW I dont rate him. Completely unproven and I could very easily see Lee, Quillen or Sanders beat him.

Khan at welter is different as welter is pretty strong. I dont think there is much between Bradley, Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook and Garcia and would probably have Khan at least 50/50 with any of them. Pac is probably still the man in the div with him beating Bradley so easily and would make him a decent fav over Khan.

Did you have Lara beating Canelo when they fought? I just can't see it myself. Kind of agree on Charlo, assuming you mean Jermell.... I don't understand why it's his brother and not him facing Trout next, although it's still a good crossroads fight I think Jermell is clearly the more talented. Andrade seems to be doing fuck all, he looks to have one of the best jabs in the sport and I can understand favouring him over Canelo, but he just isn't doing anything.

I had it close but thought if Lara was a bit smarter he could have won clearly. If they rematches Id fancy Lara and if the odds were similar to the last fight Id be all in on him