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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    Khan needs to be quicker than Usain Bolt to have a chance. Canelo is a bit of a plodder but doesn't have slow hands. Khan didn't bring his power up to welter so it's a safe bet he hasn't got a hope in hell of hurting Canelo.

    I think it will be similar to the Garcia fight. Khan will start well then Bzzzzzzz - Kip.
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    For all his skill(vastly overrated) and speed(accurately rated) Khan simply isn't an intelligent fighter. He can be brilliant if you let him fight his fight. Make him think and he will come apart. Even if you don't make him think you can still make him leap into something big with his predictable style.

    If Canelo is even half what he is advertised he will stop Khan.

    I don't think Canelo is near the puncher his is made out to be, but he is enough. And he's a better boxer than he is made out to be. He should take Khan out.

    Edit-that said, Khan boxing his ears off would be hysterical.

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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    If Virgils smart, he'll have khan try to use his distance, lands, 2/5 on the flurry and try to clinch which is what he does with ward. So look for Khan to try to fit into a Ward-esque rinse and repeat (perimeter stalk, attack, bury in, get walked out) kind of performance. Try stay off the ropes and frustrate Canelo and make it easier on himself in the later rounds where he can take rounds off and stay fresher. Its a win for khan publicity wise even if he survives.

    Canelo should look to press Khan and force him to carry that extra weight and use his legs for the first 4 or 5 rounds, so he wears himself out. Bang the body with body and borderline belt shots and take his legs away... After that khans a touch slower, his legs are heavy and he's a sitting duck and will be forced to trade with Canelo.

    I agree that this could be the typical khan oversight fight. Start well, look like he has a plan and a momentarily lapse of concentration eff's it all up. Either Canelo can't be hurt by Khan and throws with him looking knock on the same door Garcia knocked on with the left hook over the top. Or Khan strays from the game plan and tries to punch out with Canelo and gets clobbered. Or slows down just enough for Canelo to catch him in the later rounds. I get the feeling Khan tries to use the Ward technique listed above, has some moderate success and the first time canelo wobbles him, there will be a quick stoppage
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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    To me I think this fight plays out like GGG vs David Lemieux. Come the night of the fight Canelo will be heavier, stronger, and will just batter Khan

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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    He should bring a pillow with him.
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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    If Virgils smart, he'll have khan try to use his distance, lands, 2/5 on the flurry and try to clinch which is what he does with ward. So look for Khan to try to fit into a Ward-esque rinse and repeat (perimeter stalk, attack, bury in, get walked out) kind of performance. Try stay off the ropes and frustrate Canelo and make it easier on himself in the later rounds where he can take rounds off and stay fresher. Its a win for khan publicity wise even if he survives.

    Canelo should look to press Khan and force him to carry that extra weight and use his legs for the first 4 or 5 rounds, so he wears himself out. Bang the body with body and borderline belt shots and take his legs away... After that khans a touch slower, his legs are heavy and he's a sitting duck and will be forced to trade with Canelo.

    I agree that this could be the typical khan oversight fight. Start well, look like he has a plan and a momentarily lapse of concentration eff's it all up. Either Canelo can't be hurt by Khan and throws with him looking knock on the same door Garcia knocked on with the left hook over the top. Or Khan strays from the game plan and tries to punch out with Canelo and gets clobbered. Or slows down just enough for Canelo to catch him in the later rounds. I get the feeling Khan tries to use the Ward technique listed above, has some moderate success and the first time canelo wobbles him, there will be a quick stoppage
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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    I've got extreme inside knowledge that Liam Smith outclassed Khan in sparring and he's looking fleshy. Stamina wasn't all that either, very reliable source too.

    Posted this is another thread

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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    I've got extreme inside knowledge that Liam Smith outclassed Khan in sparring and he's looking fleshy. Stamina wasn't all that either, very reliable source too.

    Posted this is another thread

    Like throw a bra into the ring kind of flabby? I hope not but they have sure been tight on the pictures from camp. Khans got a pretty big frame. Its hard to believe he'd have issues putting on a few pounds.

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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    I've got extreme inside knowledge that Liam Smith outclassed Khan in sparring and he's looking fleshy. Stamina wasn't all that either, very reliable source too.

    Posted this is another thread

    Like throw a bra into the ring kind of flabby? I hope not but they have sure been tight on the pictures from camp. Khans got a pretty big frame. Its hard to believe he'd have issues putting on a few pounds.
    Just was told to wait till the weigh in and we shall see.

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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    Canelo has wins over Trout, Lara and Cotto he going to crush Khan or at least beat him. Not to mention Canelo can box and counter well look at Cotto fight Canelo was out boxing him which is something i never thought i see was dodging almost all the shots that were thrown at him.

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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Canelo has wins over Trout, Lara and Cotto he going to crush Khan or at least beat him. Not to mention Canelo can box and counter well look at Cotto fight Canelo was out boxing him which is something i never thought i see was dodging almost all the shots that were thrown at him.
    He didn't outbox Cotto. I thought that Cotto boxed better for sure. The difference was that Cotto couldn't hurt Canelo whatsoever and every punch Canelo landed really affected Cotto. Cotto controlled the fight well but just couldn't handle the size of canelo. Khan will be even worse. He won't be able to dictate the pace at all.
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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Canelo has wins over Trout, Lara and Cotto he going to crush Khan or at least beat him. Not to mention Canelo can box and counter well look at Cotto fight Canelo was out boxing him which is something i never thought i see was dodging almost all the shots that were thrown at him.
    He didn't outbox Cotto. I thought that Cotto boxed better for sure. The difference was that Cotto couldn't hurt Canelo whatsoever and every punch Canelo landed really affected Cotto. Cotto controlled the fight well but just couldn't handle the size of canelo. Khan will be even worse. He won't be able to dictate the pace at all.
    I can not remember Cotto being badly hurt in that fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_Undisputed View Post
    If Virgils smart, he'll have khan try to use his distance, lands, 2/5 on the flurry and try to clinch which is what he does with ward. So look for Khan to try to fit into a Ward-esque rinse and repeat (perimeter stalk, attack, bury in, get walked out) kind of performance. Try stay off the ropes and frustrate Canelo and make it easier on himself in the later rounds where he can take rounds off and stay fresher. Its a win for khan publicity wise even if he survives.

    Canelo should look to press Khan and force him to carry that extra weight and use his legs for the first 4 or 5 rounds, so he wears himself out. Bang the body with body and borderline belt shots and take his legs away... After that khans a touch slower, his legs are heavy and he's a sitting duck and will be forced to trade with Canelo.

    I agree that this could be the typical khan oversight fight. Start well, look like he has a plan and a momentarily lapse of concentration eff's it all up. Either Canelo can't be hurt by Khan and throws with him looking knock on the same door Garcia knocked on with the left hook over the top. Or Khan strays from the game plan and tries to punch out with Canelo and gets clobbered. Or slows down just enough for Canelo to catch him in the later rounds. I get the feeling Khan tries to use the Ward technique listed above, has some moderate success and the first time canelo wobbles him, there will be a quick stoppage
    Good post.

    I think you've hit just about every scenario for Khan outside of a first round KO lol

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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Canelo has wins over Trout, Lara and Cotto he going to crush Khan or at least beat him. Not to mention Canelo can box and counter well look at Cotto fight Canelo was out boxing him which is something i never thought i see was dodging almost all the shots that were thrown at him.
    He didn't outbox Cotto. I thought that Cotto boxed better for sure. The difference was that Cotto couldn't hurt Canelo whatsoever and every punch Canelo landed really affected Cotto. Cotto controlled the fight well but just couldn't handle the size of canelo. Khan will be even worse. He won't be able to dictate the pace at all.
    I can not remember Cotto being badly hurt in that fight.
    I don't think he was ever badly hurt but he definitely got hurt by some of them. And they definitely moved him backwards sometimes.

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    Default re: So Khan off to sleep, or dancing the night away to a with a frustrated Canelo?

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Canelo has wins over Trout, Lara and Cotto he going to crush Khan or at least beat him. Not to mention Canelo can box and counter well look at Cotto fight Canelo was out boxing him which is something i never thought i see was dodging almost all the shots that were thrown at him.
    He didn't outbox Cotto. I thought that Cotto boxed better for sure. The difference was that Cotto couldn't hurt Canelo whatsoever and every punch Canelo landed really affected Cotto. Cotto controlled the fight well but just couldn't handle the size of canelo. Khan will be even worse. He won't be able to dictate the pace at all.
    I can not remember Cotto being badly hurt in that fight.
    I don't think he was ever badly hurt but he definitely got hurt by some of them. And they definitely moved him backwards sometimes.
    I actually thought Cotto did not go for the victory and take the chances needed to win the fight. Cotto fought in the comfort zone of an aged fighter ready to pick up his pay cheque and fight another day type attitude.
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