Amir Khan v Saul Alvarez

[Master]

Even though we know that GGG will beat Canelo, we still need to see it for the sake of linage middleweight title and the fact that we want the corporate created manufactured champion battered by the blue collar guy.

[Mr140]

Even though we know that GGG will beat Canelo, we still need to see it for the sake of linage middleweight title and the fact that we want the corporate created manufactured champion battered by the blue collar guy.

Outside of not fighting GGG which is still a black eye he has only been champ since november by beating Cotto who wanted the catch weight as well it was his demand. Say what you want but Canelo has wins over Trout,Lara,Kirkland and Cotto i would not call man with that high of wins a manufactured champ. I mean he has fought all the talent near him besides GGG and he just got the belt a few months ago. There is no talent in the MW division but GGG all the other talent and names are south of the weight.

[Fenster]

Khan deserves big respect. In a fight that the entire world was in agreement with that he had no chance he still made it entertaining.

Those Las Vegas docs need to learn how to get in the ring faster when a fighter has been half-killed. And Bayless needs to learn how to call the medics faster instead of waving his arms over the dead fighter - posing for the money shot. Khan's head bounced 3-foot off the canvas, it was fucking obvious he was unconcious. Pathetic.

[SlimTrae]

Khan deserves big respect. In a fight that the entire world was in agreement with that he had no chance he still made it entertaining.

Those Las Vegas docs need to learn how to get in the ring faster when a fighter has been half-killed. And Bayless needs to learn how to call the medics faster instead of waving his arms over the dead fighter - posing for the money shot. Khan's head bounced 3-foot off the canvas, it was fucking obvious he was unconcious. Pathetic.

Diddo.

[J_Undisputed]

Khan seems to have knack for that really. He falls uglier than any fighter i've seen. Every Ko seems to result in a head whip into the canvas. But credit to the man. He put on about 10lbs. (and it was all balls) to fight a guy he knew would still put on an extra 20+ lbs.

That being said I think the split between the Canelo supporters and the GGG supporters is more than just a fighter vs. fighter thing. It's a moral kind of separation. Some people see GGG as a fighter that's cleaning house at 160. But as touched on by @Master, i believe more of us see GGG as the anti-floyd. A guy whose made his name and keeps his name (at least for the time being) as someone who follows the rules, tries to put on a show, even if it means leaving himself open for some punches, cares about being the best and not just the best paid. He hasn't made cheap shot pre-fight demands or acted like a dick to try try to get more people to buy his fights. He wants to unify and not just jump around, going to where the money is and then tries to make up for weight/size/style/power differences by manipulating other aspects of the contract afterwards... and that is the area where Canelo seems to be viewed as floyd's protege. Trying to capitalize on fans and supporters alike and putting his brand before the sport. Many view him as not even earnest of the attention he's getting due to a deficit of skill. Even still Canelo managed to roll this obnoxious behavior and self centered prioritizing to new heights by creating his own weight division and holding the wbc 160lb belt hostage. People do want to see the fight, but I think even without a fight, many fans would just be happy to see order restored by Canelo relinquishing his hold on the belt... As the hemming and hawing has become too much for most fans of the way boxing should and used to be before mayweather took this nickel and diming, self gratifying, bigger than the game campaigning, mainstream. (follow ups by cotto, canelo, manny and whoever else have just compounded the frustration).

It's in this sense that most people count GGG as a champion of justice and believe that by pasting the ginger, Golovkin will topple the bullsh*t machine and put that type of f*ckery to rest (it won't...). And if per chance, not... Canelo giving up the belt or finding a way to weasel out of negotiations would thereby admit he's chicken and take more starch out of this entitlement trend. The same way Martinez did when he embarrassed Chavez jr for 11.5 rounds.

As the saying goes... "There are no heroes without villains and they are both in each of us."

[Andre]

Even though we know that GGG will beat Canelo, we still need to see it for the sake of linage middleweight title and the fact that we want the corporate created manufactured champion battered by the blue collar guy.

Outside of not fighting GGG which is still a black eye he has only been champ since november by beating Cotto who wanted the catch weight as well it was his demand. Say what you want but Canelo has wins over Trout,Lara,Kirkland and Cotto i would not call man with that high of wins a manufactured champ. I mean he has fought all the talent near him besides GGG and he just got the belt a few months ago. There is no talent in the MW division but GGG all the other talent and names are south of the weight.

Be decent to see GGG go up one division too theres some decent fights up. Maybe he should sign up with Oscar and make a new weight of 164 and fight out of that

[Andre]

Teddy Atlas talks Canelo vs Khan and calls out 'corrupt' sport and judges - Bad Left Hook

[IamInuit]

Teddy Atlas talks Canelo vs Khan and calls out 'corrupt' sport and judges - Bad Left Hook

Yup. I don't think Alvarez landed 10 punches over the first 4 and one corrupt bag person had him up 4-1 after 5. Its beyond a head scratch moment. I like his nobody is that incompetent comment.

[Memphis]

Pretty much went as expected to be honest, didn't expect the chilling KO as it happened, more Khan getting dropped and getting up on Bambi legs like he does and getting saved from further punishment.

Canelo landed a left hook prior to the sparkage which made Khans legs do a little wobble, he always gets careless after getting clipped.

Common sense suggested that there'd be nothing for Canelo to hit for a few rounds so you would think the early wild swings were born out of a cavalier attitude rather than frustration, Canelo expected to chin Khan at some point just like everyone else.

I was watching with HBO commentary for a few rounds (3 - 5 and I swear they didnt mention Khans name once, it was all Canelo as far as they were concerned.

[Gandalf]

HBO = Horribly Biased Organisation. Like the BBC of boxing.

[ono]

I think he is quite predictable. Canelo threw that same shot a good few times before hand only for it to just miss by a whisker. You'd think Khan would have cottoned on. Trying to throw a lead left when you're trying to keep it an outside fight is just silly, especially if you haven't figured out the range properly.

I think good fighters will always spend the first few rounds letting him do his thing, because they know that once his confidence grows, he gets reckless and makes mistakes. As poor as his chin is, his concentration and decision making is pretty bad and at the top level or against top power, his margin for error is much less.

[smashup]

That punch would have put most fighters to sleep and we have to remember Khan didn't force the Rehydration clause which was suicidal, i read today that Canelo was a little over 180 pounds and even said no when HBO asked to weigh him just before the fight, that's a MASSIVE advantage that Amir gave him and a foolish one. I actually thought he was in serious trouble when he hit the canvas then noticed his chest moving and realised he was at least breathing.
Canelo landed a few hard body shots that Khan tried to grin off which is a tell tale sign you've been hurt, after that Canelo realised Khan couldn't hurt him so just cut the ring off more and more and walked through him like a machine, the fact Khan was turning into him trying to land a silly lead left just added to the force of the impact.
At the weigh in they looked of similar size but Canelo looked a different person during the fight and he's know to put mass back on really fast between the weigh in and the fight, 20 pounds Plus minimum.
Having said that back in the day fighters like Ray Robinson moved through the weights easily and never got banged out cold like that.
Makes you realise just how hard the old school fighters were

[palmerq]

Even though we know that GGG will beat Canelo, we still need to see it for the sake of linage middleweight title and the fact that we want the corporate created manufactured champion battered by the blue collar guy.

Outside of not fighting GGG which is still a black eye he has only been champ since november by beating Cotto who wanted the catch weight as well it was his demand. Say what you want but Canelo has wins over Trout,Lara,Kirkland and Cotto i would not call man with that high of wins a manufactured champ. I mean he has fought all the talent near him besides GGG and he just got the belt a few months ago. There is no talent in the MW division but GGG all the other talent and names are south of the weight.

Be decent to see GGG go up one division too theres some decent fights up. Maybe he should sign up with Oscar and make a new weight of 164 and fight out of that

he should try and get the mexican smw champ to come down to 161 lbs and fight for his world title :S provoke the mexicans into demand canelo fight him.

[Andre]

Canelo GGG slap.jpg