Povetkin failed Drug Test - Fight Off

[Silkeyjoe]

Just reading this on twitter. Disaster was really looking forwad to this fight.

No surprise really though.

[p4pking]

This is the same thing Maria Sharapova tested positive for, it was only recently added as a banned substance and apparently his levels were very low. Also read that there was dispute as to when the testing would begin which almost prevented the fight from happening, that COULD mean Povetkin had stopped using it and was just worried about it clearing. I think it should be up to Wider whether he still wants to fight him or not, as a selfish boxing fan.

[El Kabong]

From Wikipedia
Meldonium was added to the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) list of banned substances effective 1 January 2016 because of evidence of its use by athletes with the intention of enhancing performance. It was on the 2015 WADA's list of drugs to be monitored. WADA classes the drug as a metabolic modulator, just as it does insulin.

What Is Meldonium, And Why Do Athletes Like Maria Sharapova Take It?



Well I wasn't suspicious of the win streak after the Klitschko fight before this, but I am now.

[J_Undisputed]

hmmm... wow... last dude got a 2 year ban

[brocktonblockbust]

Good so the Atomic Helicopter Sha-Nay-Nay Wilder will have to fight David Hate.

[IamInuit]

Is anyone here a bio chemist who has a working knowledge of shelf life with these agents? This drug was fine/not included until January of this year. Is it possible that this chemical could be found in a blood test 5 months after it was actually taken? And if so is it fair to then ruin someone over something they stopped taking once they knew it was added to the banned list?

[p4pking]

Is anyone here a bio chemist who has a working knowledge of shelf life with these agents? This drug was fine/not included until January of this year. Is it possible that this chemical could be found in a blood test 5 months after it was actually taken? And if so is it fair to then ruin someone over something they stopped taking once they knew it was added to the banned list?

Yes, and I feel that's highly likely.







*Actually I know fuck all about this but it still seems like that's plausible and is what I was trying to say :P.

[Ron Swanson]

Is anyone here a bio chemist who has a working knowledge of shelf life with these agents? This drug was fine/not included until January of this year. Is it possible that this chemical could be found in a blood test 5 months after it was actually taken? And if so is it fair to then ruin someone over something they stopped taking once they knew it was added to the banned list?

The maker of it says it can indeed take months to leave your body. But, why was he taking it in the first place? I highly doubt he has myocardial ischemia.

It was placed on the PED list because it is a PE, maybe it wasn't banned before but these athletes weren't taking it for its intended purpose they were taking it to performance enhance.

It seems like both sides should be reasonable because we know what we need to know, athletes could still be testing positive even if they stopped taking it when it was banned(shortened suspension). But athletes were taking something unnatural to gain an advantage(so accept shortened suspension)

[p4pking]

Define "unnatural" though? That opens a whole nother can of worms. I'd bet there aren't many elite fighters who don't take some kind of supplement which doesn't exactly grow on trees. If it legit wasn't banned and he stopped taking it when it became so, then he shouldn't be punished imo. For the record, I don't doubt he was also taking other things which weren't detectable, and I wouldn't doubt Wilder is/was also.

[Ron Swanson]

Unnatural like it isn't something the body needs. B12, okay, the body needs it. Omega 6, Omega 3, okay the body needs them, vitamin C etcetera.

We can use common sense, it is a drug, it isn't something that occurs naturally. But we can take common sense further. In communist countries they were impregnating women to adjust their hormones then giving them abortions for training advantages. Rather clear that it is unnatural even though pregnancy is natural. Of course women have their own rights with their own bodies but if a woman gets pregnant every time she has a competition coming up and gets an abortion only at peak gain timing it isn't a great mental leap to decide she is doing it for unnatural gains.

We as people tend to over complicate everything. I understand because people want to always take every possible inch. But this isn't complicated. These athletes went to their doctors asking for an extra boost. We know this because the drug is for myocardial ischemia. If you don't have myocardial ischemia you don't need it. If a person went to a doctor for an extra boost they are performance enhancing, whether a drug is outlawed or not. If you are using something outside its intended purpose to make gains....

[Master]

Ban him for life, no excuses. Povetkin did look more musclebound. It gives Wilder an out now, when I wanted him tested.

[SlimTrae]

If the fight went on and Wilder won, would it really have made him a world class fighter to his critics?

[powerpuncher]

Supposedly he tested clean for it two weeks before he tested positive for it so it wasn't in his system from months ago

[Spicoli]

If the fight went on and Wilder won, would it really have made him a world class fighter to his critics?

If can be one of the longest words in boxing but clean win..irony huh ..vs Potetkin is full respect and credit. I've yet to come close to buying Wilder as a complete work and think his flaws may already be too deep but betting he'd do it vs Povetkin more spectacularly than the only guy to beat him so far.

[IamInuit]

If the fight went on and Wilder won, would it really have made him a world class fighter to his critics?

How many fighters won titles on the shit before January? How many lost titles on it? This entire juice thing is an odd piece of machinery.