David Haye-Arnold 'The Cobra' Gjergjaj - May 21/London 02

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Im not the only one who thinks both Haye and Joshuas opponents are shit!

They are shit!

Hughie Furys last opponent beat Joshuas next!

This cobra is another De Mori, hes fought no one and any recognisable names he hasnt looked great against either.

You sound like you have been mugged by the marketing ratyer than understanding what is really going on.

I dont think he is so much debating that they are shit, but pointing out that you are covering all bases to criticize regardless, as usual, and as you do in reverse for fighters you like. You are the most partisan fan on this site imo, and it's fairly boring.

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Im not the only one who thinks both Haye and Joshuas opponents are shit!

They are shit!

Hughie Furys last opponent beat Joshuas next!

This cobra is another De Mori, hes fought no one and any recognisable names he hasnt looked great against either.

You sound like you have been mugged by the marketing ratyer than understanding what is really going on.

I dont think he is so much debating that they are shit, but pointing out that you are covering all bases to criticize regardless, as usual, and as you do in reverse for fighters you like. You are the most partisan fan on this site imo, and it's fairly boring.

The fighters I like? Do you mean Tyson Fury? The best heavyweight in the world who beat the former best heavyweight in the world?

[Primo Carnera]

Im not the only one who thinks both Haye and Joshuas opponents are shit!

They are shit!

Hughie Furys last opponent beat Joshuas next!

This cobra is another De Mori, hes fought no one and any recognisable names he hasnt looked great against either.

You sound like you have been mugged by the marketing ratyer than understanding what is really going on.

I dont think he is so much debating that they are shit, but pointing out that you are covering all bases to criticize regardless, as usual, and as you do in reverse for fighters you like. You are the most partisan fan on this site imo, and it's fairly boring.

Exactly right Sir. I wouldn't waste your time though, because He knows what I'm saying and when he hasn't got an answer , he breaks the post up and answers a little bit that he can.

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Its almost like your saying that I have no right to express an opinion that Haye and Joshuas next opponents are not very good BUT at the same time also not point out that Tyson Furys next opponent is the second best heavy in the world?

These are facts as well as my opinion. Geow up sulking you two

[Primo Carnera]

Its almost like your saying that I have no right to express an opinion that Haye and Joshuas next opponents are not very good BUT at the same time also not point out that Tyson Furys next opponent is the second best heavy in the world?

These are facts as well as my opinion. Geow up sulking you two

You are laughable my friend. you've just done exactly what I said.
Yes , you are more than entitled to criticise the quality of Haye and AJ's opponents.
BUT, if in the lead up to a fight , like AJ v Martin for example , if you say, "AJ will have problems here because this opponent is good" or "AJ could lose", If AJ blasts that guy out you CANNOT say "Martin is shit!" without acknowledging that AJ did well and that you got it wrong and eat a bit of Humble Pie. Do you finally get it now?
btw, How's training camp going for "The greatest HW on the Planet!"?

[Fenster]

If Haye and Briggs really have done a deal to fight next there was no way Briggs was ever fighting Dimitrenko. He'd beat that crazy old sod.

It's a disgrace that Haye is gonna bash the old funker up too.

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If Haye and Briggs really have done a deal to fight next there was no way Briggs was ever fighting Dimitrenko. He'd beat that crazy old sod.

It's a disgrace that Haye is gonna bash the old funker up too.

Id bet its more to do with who Haye can afford as an opponent to be honest. Its him or his promotional putfit footing the bill. I don't think Haye really wants to waste his time with Briggs. I think hes fine having him on his show as it sells tickets but he doesnt seem to like Briggs brashness or his popularity. I know alot are pissed off that its not Dimitrenko thats fighting Briggs as thats why some bought tickets. Haye doesnt want to be tied up fighting someone who is still genuinly dangerous when he could get a title shot at the drop of a hat with all these steroid suspensions.

[Fenster]

Briggs is worth two bob, he hasn't been relevant for donkey's years, but has made himself into a popular character through social media.

Haye put him on his show to sell the next fight. He's gonna get millions of viewers on Dave then sell it to a subscription channel.

[Primo Carnera]

South West HQ for the Midget Shaggers appreciation society for your benefit.😂
Nah, copy and paste error, please delete, thank you.

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I take it you have been listenng and swallowing what Tyson Fury has been saying again regarding his training camp?

Peter Fury has laughed at sky sports for publishing that. They have been doing regular training videos and Peter has not been out of camp. They did one last night mocking sky sports and reminding everyone that Tyson likes to take the piss. Like they said, they do something good no one wants to publish that. Tyson takes the piss and says hes been dropped by a light heavy and that Peters left camp and BANG thats out there because of jealousy and bitterness.

I watched Tyson do a circuit this morning. Robert Helenius was also doing it as hes one of Tysons sparring partners, along with Eric Molina and some others he was struggling a bit ol Helenius, not sure how fit he is, although hes just fought so youd think he should be fit even if he did get knocked out

[Primo Carnera]

I take it you have been listenng and swallowing what Tyson Fury has been saying again regarding his training camp?

Peter Fury has laughed at sky sports for publishing that. They have been doing regular training videos and Peter has not been out of camp. They did one last night mocking sky sports and reminding everyone that Tyson likes to take the piss. Like they said, they do something good no one wants to publish that. Tyson takes the piss and says hes been dropped by a light heavy and that Peters left camp and BANG thats out there because of jealousy and bitterness.

I watched Tyson do a circuit this morning. Robert Helenius was also doing it as hes one of Tysons sparring partners, along with Eric Molina and some others he was struggling a bit ol Helenius, not sure how fit he is, although hes just fought so youd think he should be fit even if he did get knocked out

Firstly, I haven't managed to watch the youtube video you posted yet because I'm working and I have another life, but I will get round to it.
Secondly, lets go through the scenarios:
1. Its a Wind up - Yes, well done , but wouldn't he be better off concentrating and focussing on his World Title fight?
2. Mind Games - Surely it's not much of a mind game if you chat shit and less than 24 hours later you say it isn't true? it doesn't even give whoever it's supposed to wind up a chance to digest it.
3. It's True - So fucking what ? why fucking go on social media talking about it ?
4. Tyson is a Bi-Polar nut job who doesn't know if he wants a shit or a haircut - Very possible
My point is BIG FUCKING DEAL!
As for "they do something good no one wants to publish that. Tyson takes the piss and says hes been dropped by a light heavy and that Peters left camp and BANG thats out there because of jealousy and bitterness." Welcome to the real World , where in the Media "Shit" sells better than "Do-Gooders".
If he didn't bang on about Slapping bitches around and Jews owning all the banks and Queers and all sorts of other nonsense , they would leave him alone. I mean, you're fucking in camp , 7 or 8 weeks away from fighting Klitschko and you've got time to have a deep and meaningful about Jews and all sorts of other deep shit you know fuck all about! what the fuck!
I don't hear Joshua being quoted talking shit every 5 minutes , do you?
finally , if you've got time to fucking watch every single item on facebook, youtube, instagram, periscope, twitter , womans weekly , Travellers times or any other social media about the Fury's then you are a sadder fucker than I gave you credit for and I am seriously concerned for you!

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Joshua doesnt go in the media because hes got nothing of interest to say. Check out Tysons impression of him

http://youtu.be/59wDP2ar1WA

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Its almost like your saying that I have no right to express an opinion that Haye and Joshuas next opponents are not very good BUT at the same time also not point out that Tyson Furys next opponent is the second best heavy in the world?

These are facts as well as my opinion. Geow up sulking you two

You are laughable my friend. you've just done exactly what I said.
Yes , you are more than entitled to criticise the quality of Haye and AJ's opponents.
BUT, if in the lead up to a fight , like AJ v Martin for example , if you say, "AJ will have problems here because this opponent is good" or "AJ could lose", If AJ blasts that guy out you CANNOT say "Martin is shit!" without acknowledging that AJ did well and that you got it wrong and eat a bit of Humble Pie. Do you finally get it now?
btw, How's training camp going for "The greatest HW on the Planet!"?

@Primo Carnera http://youtu.be/5yltWLxfjCw

[Primo Carnera]

Its almost like your saying that I have no right to express an opinion that Haye and Joshuas next opponents are not very good BUT at the same time also not point out that Tyson Furys next opponent is the second best heavy in the world?

These are facts as well as my opinion. Geow up sulking you two

You are laughable my friend. you've just done exactly what I said.
Yes , you are more than entitled to criticise the quality of Haye and AJ's opponents.
BUT, if in the lead up to a fight , like AJ v Martin for example , if you say, "AJ will have problems here because this opponent is good" or "AJ could lose", If AJ blasts that guy out you CANNOT say "Martin is shit!" without acknowledging that AJ did well and that you got it wrong and eat a bit of Humble Pie. Do you finally get it now?
btw, How's training camp going for "The greatest HW on the Planet!"?

@Primo Carnera http://youtu.be/5yltWLxfjCw

Again , proving my point, only replying to the last line of my post.
anyway, I've managed to watch this now. So, what I got from this was :
a.) It's all lies
b.) people print all sorts of crap.
c.) Hughie's acne treatment is going fine, He's well enough to fight a journeyman on the undercard and then by October "he'll be ready for anyone in the World, and I mean ANYONE!!!!!"
Now maybe I've got this wrong , but maybe, just maybe, if Tyson didn't keep telling lies , then the Media wouldn't print or show it. Do you think they've thought about that?