No fighter needs to move down, fighters need to move up!

**Batman** · 05-20-2016 03:17 AM

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

2 things

Batman-GGG has been talking about moving up for 5 years! He was going to move up for a payday against Steiglitz, he was going to move up for a payday against Chavez, he was going to move up for a payday against Froch. All to 168, but for Ward he wanted 164. Let's not pretend we don't understand why one situation called for a different weight, we all know why he wanted Ward to go lower. GGG was 165 12 years ago. 168 isn't a problem now.

And the 2nd, GGG has already moved down. He was bigger as an amateur.

He should not have to move down, that is correct. But he also shouldn't Pacquiao and say I'll fight this guy at this weight but for this guy I want it at this weight and that guy I want it at that weight to have an advantage. He is good enough he doesn't need advantages.

Is that true? I honestly can't remember ever hearing him talking about Steiglitz, Chavez and Froch, my memory must be shot

**brocktonblockbust** · 05-20-2016 04:22 AM

Froch would fucking murder him, even now.

**SlimTrae** · 05-22-2016 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Batman

Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

2 things

Batman-GGG has been talking about moving up for 5 years! He was going to move up for a payday against Steiglitz, he was going to move up for a payday against Chavez, he was going to move up for a payday against Froch. All to 168, but for Ward he wanted 164. Let's not pretend we don't understand why one situation called for a different weight, we all know why he wanted Ward to go lower. GGG was 165 12 years ago. 168 isn't a problem now.

And the 2nd, GGG has already moved down. He was bigger as an amateur.

He should not have to move down, that is correct. But he also shouldn't Pacquiao and say I'll fight this guy at this weight but for this guy I want it at this weight and that guy I want it at that weight to have an advantage. He is good enough he doesn't need advantages.

Is that true? I honestly can't remember ever hearing him talking about Steiglitz, Chavez and Froch, my memory must be shot

I was about to ask as well. If it's true, then Ron just dropped some science on us.

**Sleepwalker** · 05-22-2016 10:33 AM

I don't see how losing muscle mass can benefit someone in a sport as grueling as boxing, where even the most seemingly marginal differences can be a big advantage/disadvantage and have aa huge influence on the outcome of a fight.

**IamInuit** · 05-23-2016 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Sleepwalker

I don't see how losing muscle mass can benefit someone in a sport as grueling as boxing, where even the most seemingly marginal differences can be a big advantage/disadvantage and have aa huge influence on the outcome of a fight.

It doesn't. If it was not a problem history would be full of examples. Although rarely attempted it also has about a 100% failure rate. Other then that its a great idea.