Prime Calzaghe vs Golovkin

[Andre]

A prime Jones/GGG would be more fun.

Got me checking this out again.

[Gandalf]

Calzaghe was the greatest fighter of all time. He could not be beat. GGG is good, but he isn't interplanetary.

[Mr140]

Calzaghe was the greatest fighter of all time. He could not be beat. GGG is good, but he isn't interplanetary.

I do not feel he was the greatest of all time but he is a league above ggg and as for hopkins i do not get why people act like they are so different. Hopkins dominated a weak division just like he did for 10 years and then moved up and had great wins i do not see why Calzaghe always gets shit for it.

[Gandalf]

It is probably the US-centric perspective - "American fighters are the greatest, y'all!". It is of course complete bollocks, but a daft nationalist is as a daft nationalist does.

[Mr140]

It is probably the US-centric perspective - "American fighters are the greatest, y'all!". It is of course complete bollocks, but a daft nationalist is as a daft nationalist does.

I am from the us and i use to think less of Calzaghe then i do now i watch a lot of his fights and Hopkins and look at the guys they fought and really there no difference. The big thing is he beat guys like Tito who was ok mw and Oscar who did not belong at that weight at all but they were big names.

[Gandalf]

It is probably the US-centric perspective - "American fighters are the greatest, y'all!". It is of course complete bollocks, but a daft nationalist is as a daft nationalist does.

I am from the us and i use to think less of Calzaghe then i do now i watch a lot of his fights and Hopkins and look at the guys they fought and really there no difference. The big thing is he beat guys like Tito who was ok mw and Oscar who did not belong at that weight at all but they were big names.

No, I'm not saying that's how you think as you obviously have a sensible head on you, but a lot of boxing fans are a bit simple and see things on a racial or nationalist level.

I am British and love Calzaghe, Toney and Barrera on an equal level. It's all about skills, looks and charm for me. If you have those things I might well become a fan. I like Golovkin a lot, but Calzaghe was just better looking, had that cute Welsh lilt in his voice, and could impersonate a windmill.

[Fenster]

Watching a few rounds of that again I'd love to see Roy deal with Golovkin's pressure. BHop would need to butt him to death.

A prime Jones/GGG would be more fun.

Got me checking this out again.

[Kirkland Laing]

Hopkins had one of the best wins of his career after Joe beat him. He wasn't prime Hopkins but he wasn't fighting prime Joe either.

[El Kabong]

Hopkins had one of the best wins of his career after Joe beat him. He wasn't prime Hopkins but he wasn't fighting prime Joe either.

and Roberto Duran beat Iran Barkley in 1989....nobody is saying you can't get a big win after you're past your peak it's just unexpected.

[Master]

There is very little Golovkin could do to beat Joe in his prime. Calzaghe is superirior in all departments except maybe punch power.

[El Kabong]

There is very little Golovkin could do to beat Joe in his prime. Calzaghe is superirior in all departments except maybe punch power.

He was knocked down by older fighters.....doesn't bode well for a prime Joe fighting a Prime GGG but as I stated "We don't know if GGG's power carries to 168" and it's a question I certainly ask about the guy.

[Master]

There is very little Golovkin could do to beat Joe in his prime. Calzaghe is superirior in all departments except maybe punch power.

He was knocked down by older fighters.....doesn't bode well for a prime Joe fighting a Prime GGG but as I stated "We don't know if GGG's power carries to 168" and it's a question I certainly ask about the guy.

Prime Joe had a rock solid chin in his prime.

[Mr140]

There is very little Golovkin could do to beat Joe in his prime. Calzaghe is superirior in all departments except maybe punch power.

Not sure how GGG power would be if he moved up another weight class like would he be like Kessler or maybe a Froch. Thats the thing i am wondering because Pavlik had some power at 160 and when he moved up to fight his power seemed to really lose it steam which surprised me.

[Dia bando]

Calzaghe had a good engine and he could still punch a bit for a guy with very bad hands, he was on the sideline with injuries being his hands.
Joe took a lot of stick but in reality he was told not to box by his specialist but he did.
He was injured going in the Lacy fight and wanted to pull but he went ahead and gave a magnificent performance punch perfect.
A boxer fighting with bad hand which are the tools of his trade, imagine the pain that's why I like Joe he managed to win fighting injured continually.
Joe Calzaghe is one of the best fighters this Country has ever had that's a fact.

[El Kabong]

Calzaghe had a good engine and he could still punch a bit for a guy with very bad hands, he was on the sideline with injuries being his hands.
Joe took a lot of stick but in reality he was told not to box by his specialist but he did.
He was injured going in the Lacy fight and wanted to pull but he went ahead and gave a magnificent performance punch perfect.
A boxer fighting with bad hand which are the tools of his trade, imagine the pain that's why I like Joe he managed to win fighting injured continually.
Joe Calzaghe is one of the best fighters this Country has ever had that's a fact.

Yeah and I don't doubt a single word of that.....he just wasn't better than RJJ or Hopkins in their pomp.