Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
OK here's my big problem with people who are sold on either

#1 No one was alive to know whether things evolved or it was the way the Bible said

#2 If everything evolved what did the first thing ever evolve from

So while I doubt the 100% literal translation of the Bible, I do think that we were created by something
I love your number 2 question!

So many people claim that evolution must be true because 'Where did God come from?', but I never thought to say to someone 'Well where did the first thing that evolved, evolve from?'

That's brillaint mate, basically the evolutions have exactly the same impossible beginning that people who believe in God do.

The only difference is that a creationist can point out that since God created the universe and exists outside of it then he is not bound by the same laws. i.e creating is what God does, it is an action of God and so obviously therefore he does not need to be created, he is the creator not part of creation.

Evolutionists however cannot invoke the supernatural or posit any kind of existence outside of the universe so their answer lies within the universe itself.

And it is a whole lot harder to suggest how the universe could have created itself than it is to say somebody or something outside of the universe created it.

for a great argument