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[El Kabong]

5 and 0 for out is pretty damning. The only people wanting in are the pro immigration crowd and politicians wanting a future job. Common sense wins on this forum.

Mine is not the reason of immigration. It is the centralisation on political power in Europe and the EU market being the pawn for multi nations.

So you're for BREXIT?

I can certainly see why just from what little I know about how the EU "government" (which it is) is run. They have a flag, they have an anthem, they make laws, those are things NATIONS have and do.

The EU seems to me to be a way to erase borders and when you do that you will lose language and culture....I would HATE to see Europe just be one single nation #1 There's no fucking way the US would compete with you lot in soccer (only way England wins a World Cup is with the EU ) and #2 There's so much to be appreciated in all of the different cultures in Europe in all the individual nations.

[Beanz]

Do you ever get the feeling that Miles, Brockton and Trump missed their vocation in life and should have maybe been brickies?

It is nowhere near as simple as that. The biggest reason that languages and dialect have been lost is the adoption of English as exported by the Brits - first through Empire and trade and then by America through Business and media ( not just news media, music, movies ,television popular culture etc). Virtually nobody speaks Cornish anymore and that has nothing to do with Europe. There used to be so many different languages spoken in France other then French and most of them disappeared long before the EU came along. The EU actually tries and succeeds in retaining regional diversity by protecting locally made foodstuffs , crafts and traditions etc with cultural grants and loans. I don't know much about American state borders but the free travel of citizens across state divides must be essential for business, pleasure and culture. In Europe there are countries bordered on many sides whose work force have always commuted across borders. That does not mean that the EU is not without many, many flaws but the EU debate is a bit pointless being discussed here when (and I don't mean you) the loudest voices are for those who do not even live in Europe.

In or Out the UK as an Island will never be the same as the rest of the EU. Nobody know s the European anthem or salutes it's flag and the idea that individual nations would ever merge into one big country is just fanciful fear mongering by most Brexit campaigners.

I have not decided which way to vote but unfortunately the Brexit campaign is headed by the most insidious and noxious arse henchmen in recent British political history. The kind of people that would not only kick away a walking aid, but then stand on your gran in order to get to the front of the queue when siphoning off their obscene pensions from your children's taxes and your grandchildren's University tuition fees.

[TitoFan]

The EU seems to me to be a way to erase borders and when you do that you will lose language and culture....I would HATE to see Europe just be one single nation

I don't think that's necessarily true, at least within the space of several generations, maybe more. However, I agree with you in that I'd hate to see Europe become a single nation.

[brocktonblockbust]

The EU seems to me to be a way to erase borders and when you do that you will lose language and culture....I would HATE to see Europe just be one single nation

I don't think that's necessarily true, at least within the space of several generations, maybe more. However, I agree with you in that I'd hate to see Europe become a single nation.

Que porqueria que tu estas hablando...Mira, parece que tu has cambiado mucho desde el ano pasado... A lo.mejor empezaste tomar muchas mofongo en Mayaguez. Jajajjaaaa

[TitoFan]

The EU seems to me to be a way to erase borders and when you do that you will lose language and culture....I would HATE to see Europe just be one single nation

I don't think that's necessarily true, at least within the space of several generations, maybe more. However, I agree with you in that I'd hate to see Europe become a single nation.

Que porqueria que tu estas hablando...Mira, parece que tu has cambiado mucho desde el ano pasado... A lo.mejor empezaste tomar muchas mofongo en Mayaguez. Jajajjaaaa

Tranquilo, mi hermano. Yo siempre he tenido esa opinion de Europa. Me gusta que sean diferentes paises. Pero, no tengo que ir a Mayaguez a comer mofongo. Lo tengo cerquita de donde vivo.

[brocktonblockbust]

The EU seems to me to be a way to erase borders and when you do that you will lose language and culture....I would HATE to see Europe just be one single nation

I don't think that's necessarily true, at least within the space of several generations, maybe more. However, I agree with you in that I'd hate to see Europe become a single nation.

Que porqueria que tu estas hablando...Mira, parece que tu has cambiado mucho desde el ano pasado... A lo.mejor empezaste tomar muchas mofongo en Mayaguez. Jajajjaaaa

Tranquilo, mi hermano. Yo siempre he tenido esa opinion de Europa. Me gusta que sean diferentes paises. Pero, no tengo que ir a Mayaguez a comer mofongo. Lo tengo cerquita de donde vivo.

Mofongo se encuentra in todo los lados aqui. Sabes bien que estoy solamente bromiando, verdad?

[TitoFan]

The EU seems to me to be a way to erase borders and when you do that you will lose language and culture....I would HATE to see Europe just be one single nation

I don't think that's necessarily true, at least within the space of several generations, maybe more. However, I agree with you in that I'd hate to see Europe become a single nation.

Que porqueria que tu estas hablando...Mira, parece que tu has cambiado mucho desde el ano pasado... A lo.mejor empezaste tomar muchas mofongo en Mayaguez. Jajajjaaaa

Tranquilo, mi hermano. Yo siempre he tenido esa opinion de Europa. Me gusta que sean diferentes paises. Pero, no tengo que ir a Mayaguez a comer mofongo. Lo tengo cerquita de donde vivo.

Mofongo se encuentra in todo los lados aqui. Sabes bien que estoy solamente bromiando, verdad?

Yo se, mi amigo.

No soy tan "anal" como el zangano habichuelero ese que le lambe el roto a todo el mundo.

[brocktonblockbust]

The EU seems to me to be a way to erase borders and when you do that you will lose language and culture....I would HATE to see Europe just be one single nation

I don't think that's necessarily true, at least within the space of several generations, maybe more. However, I agree with you in that I'd hate to see Europe become a single nation.

Que porqueria que tu estas hablando...Mira, parece que tu has cambiado mucho desde el ano pasado... A lo.mejor empezaste tomar muchas mofongo en Mayaguez. Jajajjaaaa

Tranquilo, mi hermano. Yo siempre he tenido esa opinion de Europa. Me gusta que sean diferentes paises. Pero, no tengo que ir a Mayaguez a comer mofongo. Lo tengo cerquita de donde vivo.

Mofongo se encuentra in todo los lados aqui. Sabes bien que estoy solamente bromiando, verdad?

Yo se, mi amigo.

No soy tan "anal" como el zangano habichuelero ese que le lambe el roto a todo el mundo.

Tu tienes una Manera con palabras

[Gandalf]

Of the people I speak to everyone has said leave except one person who is undecided. I have called home and everyone is vote leave. The poll here is all leave.

I can sense a rigging like with Scotland or just ignoring it like in Greece. Democracy does not happen in the UK.

[brocktonblockbust]

Of the people I speak to everyone has said leave except one person who is undecided. I have called home and everyone is vote leave. The poll here is all leave.

I can sense a rigging like with Scotland or just ignoring it like in Greece. Democracy does not happen in the UK.

The UK and Europe are rigged games, like a casino. The south of England is suffering from an anachronistic blight of social scars by Westminster. Public spending cuts and the accepted POLITICALLY CORRECT WAY of just going merrily along with them with that British "stiff upper lip" is really just getting beyond laughable.

England is suffering from such poor health and antisocial behavior it is APPALLING. Poverty is through the roof, shrinking job markets, it is a joke.

God Bless the Queen and crumpets.

Tally ho.

@Gandalf

[Gandalf]

I take back my deleted post. God Save the Queen, bless the inequality, let the oligarchs rule supreme. The Brits have football and zero hour contracts. They should be grateful. After all not every child raised in single parent households is lucky enough to have a job. Be grateful, ye heathens. Europe we will pay you to dominate us with no voice. We like it. It is the British way. "My grandfather fought in the war, you know and so I will jolly well vote to make sure that his life was a meaningless pursuit". Strange it's even so close in the polls.

Note: The jocular elements in the post above may go over some ears. I make no apologies for that.

[Kirkland Laing]

Of the people I speak to everyone has said leave except one person who is undecided. I have called home and everyone is vote leave. The poll here is all leave.

I can sense a rigging like with Scotland or just ignoring it like in Greece. Democracy does not happen in the UK.

None of the main political parties in Brtian want us to leave. Nobody in europe or the EU want us to leave because it'll be the beginning of the end of the EU if we do.

So probably they'll just try and ignore it if we do leave. Keep agreements as they are, go into negotiations which will last ages and hope that our economy declines relative to the EU to such an extent they can make some small concessions and give us another referendum and we vote to stay in. Maybe it sends the eurozone economy into a tailspin and the EU starts falling apart that way. EU in trouble either way the next big global recession we have.

[walrus]

Of the people I speak to everyone has said leave except one person who is undecided. I have called home and everyone is vote leave. The poll here is all leave.

I can sense a rigging like with Scotland or just ignoring it like in Greece. Democracy does not happen in the UK.

None of the main political parties in Brtian want us to leave. Nobody in europe or the EU want us to leave because it'll be the beginning of the end of the EU if we do.

So probably they'll just try and ignore it if we do leave. Keep agreements as they are, go into negotiations which will last ages and hope that our economy declines relative to the EU to such an extent they can make some small concessions and give us another referendum and we vote to stay in. Maybe it sends the eurozone economy into a tailspin and the EU starts falling apart that way. EU in trouble either way the next big global recession we have.

Utter bullshit