Eubank Jr v GGG figthing in autumn

[Master]

I don't buy into this myth that Eubank beats everyone GGG has beat. What is that based on?
I don't think he beats Lemieux, Murray, Stevens, maybe not Geale, maybe not Matthew Macklin ffs!
And there's been a lot of missed "deadlines" for this fight to happen.
The hype machine has gone into overdrive yet again.

David has beaten no one to right home about and Murray has fallen short of top guys he has fought but some how Sr can not beat those guys holy shit dude. I my underrated the comp some what but you just overrated them more then anything i have seen the mw division a waste land.

I believe Primo is saying Junior can not beat the guys GGG has fought not his dad.

[Mr140]

I don't buy into this myth that Eubank beats everyone GGG has beat. What is that based on?
I don't think he beats Lemieux, Murray, Stevens, maybe not Geale, maybe not Matthew Macklin ffs!
And there's been a lot of missed "deadlines" for this fight to happen.
The hype machine has gone into overdrive yet again.

David has beaten no one to right home about and Murray has fallen short of top guys he has fought but some how Sr can not beat those guys holy shit dude. I my underrated the comp some what but you just overrated them more then anything i have seen the mw division a waste land.

I believe Primo is saying Junior can not beat the guys GGG has fought not his dad.

Him most people just call him jr so i was thinking if he called him by name he meant his dad. Anyhow if he is talking about the current Eubank then i say only David might be better. The thing is Eubanks kinda wild card and if his chin is same as his dad and does not dent going be a good fight.

[Primo Carnera]

I don't buy into this myth that Eubank beats everyone GGG has beat. What is that based on?
I don't think he beats Lemieux, Murray, Stevens, maybe not Geale, maybe not Matthew Macklin ffs!
And there's been a lot of missed "deadlines" for this fight to happen.
The hype machine has gone into overdrive yet again.

David has beaten no one to right home about and Murray has fallen short of top guys he has fought but some how Sr can not beat those guys holy shit dude. I my underrated the comp some what but you just overrated them more then anything i have seen the mw division a waste land.

I believe Primo is saying Junior can not beat the guys GGG has fought not his dad.

Him most people just call him jr so i was thinking if he called him by name he meant his dad. Anyhow if he is talking about the current Eubank then i say only David might be better. The thing is Eubanks kinda wild card and if his chin is same as his dad and does not dent going be a good fight.

Thank you Master, I meant Eubank Jr. Apologies for not making me that clear.
I don't agree with only Lemieux beats him because Eubank Jr.has never fought any top guys . And when he did step up a level to fight Saunders , he spent half the fight not having a clue what to do and the other half swinging wildly, although I acknowledge that he is a supreme athlete.
I'm not particularly a Murray fan, but he was fighting his 3rd world title shot and at the time was seen as probably the next best MW out there.
Now the counter argument is "maybe he can do this" and "if he has his Dad's this , that or the other", well I'm sorry , but I'm basing my opinion on what we have actually seen rather than ifs, buts and maybes.

Kinda like passing your driving test in a Mini and going into a formula 1 race.

[ross]

Well n what iv seen a completely green Eubank who had not faced British level journeymen in 8 rounders pushed the defending British, European and commonwealth champion to his hardest fight, including his WBO win over Lee. Eubank is the only man to have a judge make him the winner against Saunders. There is a big difference with how he lets his hands go now with reckless abandon to the fighter who tried pacing himself in his first 12 rounder against Saunders. Hes doing this against supposed big punchers all be it British level but the same British level fighters that Saunders had a hard time with.

Eubank went from the Saunders fight to facing Chudinov for the WBA interim whil Saunders faced someone with 27 losses!

Eubank is better and is still improving compared to the fighter we saw a couple of years ago.

[Master]

Well n what iv seen a completely green Eubank who had not faced British level journeymen in 8 rounders pushed the defending British, European and commonwealth champion to his hardest fight, including his WBO win over Lee. Eubank is the only man to have a judge make him the winner against Saunders. There is a big difference with how he lets his hands go now with reckless abandon to the fighter who tried pacing himself in his first 12 rounder against Saunders. Hes doing this against supposed big punchers all be it British level but the same British level fighters that Saunders had a hard time with.

Eubank went from the Saunders fight to facing Chudinov for the WBA interim whil Saunders faced someone with 27 losses!

Eubank is better and is still improving compared to the fighter we saw a couple of years ago.

Saunders is also better and more experienced now.

[Primo Carnera]

Well n what iv seen a completely green Eubank who had not faced British level journeymen in 8 rounders pushed the defending British, European and commonwealth champion to his hardest fight, including his WBO win over Lee. Eubank is the only man to have a judge make him the winner against Saunders. There is a big difference with how he lets his hands go now with reckless abandon to the fighter who tried pacing himself in his first 12 rounder against Saunders. Hes doing this against supposed big punchers all be it British level but the same British level fighters that Saunders had a hard time with.

Eubank went from the Saunders fight to facing Chudinov for the WBA interim whil Saunders faced someone with 27 losses!

Eubank is better and is still improving compared to the fighter we saw a couple of years ago.

Saunders is also better and more experienced now.

1. Nether have moved on as much as they should.
2. Saunders winning a World title was a glorified "British & Irish dust up". No disrespect, but Lee was Hardly the greatest World Champion ever.
3. We're not talking about Eubank Jr. Beating Saunders, we're talking about him Beating Golovkin! LEVELS.

[ross]

Well n what iv seen a completely green Eubank who had not faced British level journeymen in 8 rounders pushed the defending British, European and commonwealth champion to his hardest fight, including his WBO win over Lee. Eubank is the only man to have a judge make him the winner against Saunders. There is a big difference with how he lets his hands go now with reckless abandon to the fighter who tried pacing himself in his first 12 rounder against Saunders. Hes doing this against supposed big punchers all be it British level but the same British level fighters that Saunders had a hard time with.

Eubank went from the Saunders fight to facing Chudinov for the WBA interim whil Saunders faced someone with 27 losses!

Eubank is better and is still improving compared to the fighter we saw a couple of years ago.

Saunders is also better and more experienced now.

He has 2 fights since Eubank and still hasnt fought anyone as good as Eubank.

Same can be said for Eubank, hes had 5 fights but hasnt faced anyone as good as Saunders but Eubank has improved. He was the one who had the jump in class when they met.

Saunders hasnt improved as mch as Eubank has, how can he have with who hes fought? Eubank all he needed was to start throwing more punches sooner.

I actually believe both give Golovkin a difficult foght, the difference being you will never hear Eubank saying he will need a gun or Golovkn can beat him and Saunders on the same night. Eubank has belief, Saunders doesnt.

[Primo Carnera]

splitting hairs and missing the point as usual. They both haven't pushed on as they should and they both get beat. Frankly it doesn't matter if one goes the distance and one gets KO'd , getting beat is getting beat. Murray had a better pedigree at World level than either of them and he took GGG further than others, but that is because he is one tough fucker. Doesn't hide the fact the he got systematically beat up for the 10 or 11 rounds he was in there.
Saunders is a paper World Champion who has beaten nobody elite including Lee & Eubank, and for those who say Eubank has improved, it is easy to show improvement if you take on lesser quality opposition.
After fighting Saunders, he went in with Chudinov, which was a good move and good learning fight, and since then his level of opposition has gone backwards (no disrespect to Blackwell & Doran ) .
They have both turned down opportunities to fight Champions and better level fighters. and I keep repeating, This fight has not been made yet.
Out of curiosity, I wonder what we all think Eubank Jr's Purse should be for this fight and what GGG's should be , because I have heard some CRAZY rumours.

[erics44]

Well n what iv seen a completely green Eubank who had not faced British level journeymen in 8 rounders pushed the defending British, European and commonwealth champion to his hardest fight, including his WBO win over Lee. Eubank is the only man to have a judge make him the winner against Saunders. There is a big difference with how he lets his hands go now with reckless abandon to the fighter who tried pacing himself in his first 12 rounder against Saunders. Hes doing this against supposed big punchers all be it British level but the same British level fighters that Saunders had a hard time with.

Eubank went from the Saunders fight to facing Chudinov for the WBA interim whil Saunders faced someone with 27 losses!

Eubank is better and is still improving compared to the fighter we saw a couple of years ago.

Saunders is also better and more experienced now.

Saunders is better and more experienced now but Jr is miles better and more experienced now


I reckon so anyway, Eubank had fought nobody before saunders


and saunders was a lot closer to what he is now