Britain vote to leave the EU

[Kirkland Laing]

Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.

And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?

It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.

[walrus]

Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.

And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?

It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.

It's unqualified and uncontrolled that you keep posting shit here.

[El Kabong]

File this one under 'Fe' .....because of all the IRON-y

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/c...ing_in_the_eu/


Anarchists who wanted England to remain in the EU

[Beanz]

File this one under 'Fe' .....because of all the IRON-y

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/c...ing_in_the_eu/


Anarchists who wanted England to remain in the EU

It's almost as Ironic as one forum quoting another forum

[SlimTrae]

@Kirkland Laing
@Greenbeanz @Dia bando


Gr8 exchanges!!
School me! LOL!

[Beanz]

Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.

And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?

It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.

Thanks for the history lesson but you are as usual just cherry picking stuff to bolster your argument. Even the most rudimental understanding of European history makes the whole British fear of immigration thing ridiculous. Here on the edge of both Brittany and Cornwall it is very clear how most things people think about Britain and England are just myths. Most of the English came from the Basque region of south west France and Northern Spain, only a tiny percentage are descended from Anglo Saxons,The English language is fairly new and actually German, French Hugenots (my Mrs ancestors) Flemish Merchants, Jewish Money lenders whose cash built many of the Cathedrals,yaddy yadda yah have been here for years. Add to that the more recent Commonwealth and Empire people from the Caribbean, India and Africa and the idea that somehow uncontrolled immigration is some kind of justification for ignorance and an excuse or an reason to say "well it's understandable" or "it's inevitable" is daft at best.

We have never had uncontrolled immigration that's just pandering to the basest form of ignorance. The whole take back control thing is just another smoke screen to draw a veil over the neo-liberalism that even Farage and his crew subscribe to. The borders will remain open but the money, power and control will stay in the hands of the minority financial elite. Gove and crew must be rubbing their hands in delight


https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...george-monbiot

[Dia bando]

Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.

And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?

It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.

Thanks for the history lesson but you are as usual just cherry picking stuff to bolster your argument. Even the most rudimental understanding of European history makes the whole British fear of immigration thing ridiculous. Here on the edge of both Brittany and Cornwall it is very clear how most things people think about Britain and England are just myths. Most of the English came from the Basque region of south west France and Northern Spain, only a tiny percentage are descended from Anglo Saxons,The English language is fairly new and actually German, French Hugenots (my Mrs ancestors) Flemish Merchants, Jewish Money lenders whose cash built many of the Cathedrals,yaddy yadda yah have been here for years. Add to that the more recent Commonwealth and Empire people from the Caribbean, India and Africa and the idea that somehow uncontrolled immigration is some kind of justification for ignorance and an excuse or an reason to say "well it's understandable" or "it's inevitable" is daft at best.

We have never had uncontrolled immigration that's just pandering to the basest form of ignorance. The whole take back control thing is just another smoke screen to draw a veil over the neo-liberalism that even Farage and his crew subscribe to. The borders will remain open but the money, power and control will stay in the hands of the minority financial elite. Gove and crew must be rubbing their hands in delight


https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...george-monbiot

Beanz history is history now is now,! we don't need mass uncontrolled immigration, the Labour market is overflowing with cheap migrant Labour. Weather you like it or not it's the truth and the locals are pissed off.
We are looking at a Britain that had enough of immigration simple.
The people that voted in areas out were saturated with migrants.
It was plain to see politicians let people down WHY because it's not PC to talk about immigration.
Hell not one gave a straight answer Do you think letting in over three hundred thousand people into this small country every year is sustainable.
Shit we can't manage with what we got now.
It's not the 50s or 60s it's 2016 immigration is a big issue.

[Kirkland Laing]

Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.

And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?

It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.

Thanks for the history lesson but you are as usual just cherry picking stuff to bolster your argument. Even the most rudimental understanding of European history makes the whole British fear of immigration thing ridiculous. Here on the edge of both Brittany and Cornwall it is very clear how most things people think about Britain and England are just myths. Most of the English came from the Basque region of south west France and Northern Spain, only a tiny percentage are descended from Anglo Saxons,The English language is fairly new and actually German, French Hugenots (my Mrs ancestors) Flemish Merchants, Jewish Money lenders whose cash built many of the Cathedrals,yaddy yadda yah have been here for years. Add to that the more recent Commonwealth and Empire people from the Caribbean, India and Africa and the idea that somehow uncontrolled immigration is some kind of justification for ignorance and an excuse or an reason to say "well it's understandable" or "it's inevitable" is daft at best.

We have never had uncontrolled immigration that's just pandering to the basest form of ignorance. The whole take back control thing is just another smoke screen to draw a veil over the neo-liberalism that even Farage and his crew subscribe to. The borders will remain open but the money, power and control will stay in the hands of the minority financial elite. Gove and crew must be rubbing their hands in delight


https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...george-monbiot

We've never had immigration on the level we have now. We have the equivalent of a city the size of Newcastle being created every year by new net immigration. This is unprecedented and just cannot continue indeficitely without some kind of backlash from the indigenous population.

What the EU does is basically provide a huge pool of cheap labour for multinational corporations that can be moved to any country to either take advantage of cheap labour conditions or bring down labour rates in areas where relatively high wages still exist. It smashes down any kind of capital or labour barriers that used to exist to protect domestic workers in high wage countries like ours. A supranational organisation like the EU is the ultimate aim of neoliberalism, a corporate-friendly organisation run by corporate servants who want to do their masters' bidding.

You may not like the government we have after we leave but you can vote to change it. It's impossible to change the EU in any meaningful way. You're just reacting to the short term result of leaving the EU without looking at the longer term picture. Any move away from supranational neoliberalism to the nation state is to be welcomed in the long run.

[El Kabong]

Maybe I've heard wrong, but didn't Blair want to flood England with immigrants to fuck with the British working class?


Tony Blair biography reveals PM's conspiracy to silence immigration debate* | Daily Mail Online

[El Kabong]

Well no one could have foreseen THIS

[Kirkland Laing]

Maybe I've heard wrong, but didn't Blair want to flood England with immigrants to fuck with the British working class?


Tony Blair biography reveals PM's conspiracy to silence immigration debate* | Daily Mail Online

The Labour party wanted/want to enforce diversity and multiculturalism on the population to end racism so they're in favour of uncontrolled immigration. The Blairite faction want to keep business happy so they also allow uncontrolled immigration for that reason.

The Conservatives are a wholly owned subsidiary of big business and corporations so allow uncontrolled immigration for that reason. Uncontrolled immigration isn't going to stop just because they let the plebs have a vote. When the plebs realise this they may start getting upset. But who to vote for when all the parties are lockstep in the uncontrolled immigration direction.

Plenty room for a nationalist party like Ukip to grow soon.

[El Kabong]

The Labour party wanted/want to enforce diversity and multiculturalism on the population to end racism so they're in favour of uncontrolled immigration. The Blairite faction want to keep business happy so they also allow uncontrolled immigration for that reason.

The Conservatives are a wholly owned subsidiary of big business and corporations so allow uncontrolled immigration for that reason. Uncontrolled immigration isn't going to stop just because they let the plebs have a vote. When the plebs realise this they may start getting upset. But who to vote for when all the parties are lockstep in the uncontrolled immigration direction.

Plenty room for a nationalist party like Ukip to grow soon.

Multiculturalism is a crock of shit.


That said I'm all for learning about other cultures and appreciating similarities and differences but this idea that all cultures are equal which is the foundation of multiculturalism is just garbage and it's plainly not true.


You bring up "big business" and "corporations" I're read where the majority of immigrants coming over to England are damn near unemployable and it's not just a language barrier issue.


What is wrong with some national pride? The Western world is pretty fucking awesome are we not allowed to celebrate that? I'm not arguing FOR Fascism or Totalitarianism, I would simply like to appreciate the culture we in America and others in the Western World have cultivated over many many years.

[Master]

Everyone ifs different but why is everyone not equal in your book?

[Kirkland Laing]

The Labour party wanted/want to enforce diversity and multiculturalism on the population to end racism so they're in favour of uncontrolled immigration. The Blairite faction want to keep business happy so they also allow uncontrolled immigration for that reason.

The Conservatives are a wholly owned subsidiary of big business and corporations so allow uncontrolled immigration for that reason. Uncontrolled immigration isn't going to stop just because they let the plebs have a vote. When the plebs realise this they may start getting upset. But who to vote for when all the parties are lockstep in the uncontrolled immigration direction.

Plenty room for a nationalist party like Ukip to grow soon.

Multiculturalism is a crock of shit.


That said I'm all for learning about other cultures and appreciating similarities and differences but this idea that all cultures are equal which is the foundation of multiculturalism is just garbage and it's plainly not true.


You bring up "big business" and "corporations" I're read where the majority of immigrants coming over to England are damn near unemployable and it's not just a language barrier issue.


What is wrong with some national pride? The Western world is pretty fucking awesome are we not allowed to celebrate that? I'm not arguing FOR Fascism or Totalitarianism, I would simply like to appreciate the culture we in America and others in the Western World have cultivated over many many years.

Where did you read that they're unemployable?

[Dia bando]

Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.

And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?

It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.

Thanks for the history lesson but you are as usual just cherry picking stuff to bolster your argument. Even the most rudimental understanding of European history makes the whole British fear of immigration thing ridiculous. Here on the edge of both Brittany and Cornwall it is very clear how most things people think about Britain and England are just myths. Most of the English came from the Basque region of south west France and Northern Spain, only a tiny percentage are descended from Anglo Saxons,The English language is fairly new and actually German, French Hugenots (my Mrs ancestors) Flemish Merchants, Jewish Money lenders whose cash built many of the Cathedrals,yaddy yadda yah have been here for years. Add to that the more recent Commonwealth and Empire people from the Caribbean, India and Africa and the idea that somehow uncontrolled immigration is some kind of justification for ignorance and an excuse or an reason to say "well it's understandable" or "it's inevitable" is daft at best.

We have never had uncontrolled immigration that's just pandering to the basest form of ignorance. The whole take back control thing is just another smoke screen to draw a veil over the neo-liberalism that even Farage and his crew subscribe to. The borders will remain open but the money, power and control will stay in the hands of the minority financial elite. Gove and crew must be rubbing their hands in delight


https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...george-monbiot

We've never had immigration on the level we have now. We have the equivalent of a city the size of Newcastle being created every year by new net immigration. This is unprecedented and just cannot continue indeficitely without some kind of backlash from the indigenous population.

What the EU does is basically provide a huge pool of cheap labour for multinational corporations that can be moved to any country to either take advantage of cheap labour conditions or bring down labour rates in areas where relatively high wages still exist. It smashes down any kind of capital or labour barriers that used to exist to protect domestic workers in high wage countries like ours. A supranational organisation like the EU is the ultimate aim of neoliberalism, a corporate-friendly organisation run by corporate servants who want to do their masters' bidding.

You may not like the government we have after we leave but you can vote to change it. It's impossible to change the EU in any meaningful way. You're just reacting to the short term result of leaving the EU without looking at the longer term picture. Any move away from supranational neoliberalism to the nation state is to be welcomed in the long run.

You are correct NO changing the EU the immigration issues were the main problem with it.
As for the politicians needing a kick, they would not say anything about immigration like it was taboo, again the fear of being called a racist .
I do agree with Beanz that Countries were built on immigration, but as for us now we don't need hundreds of thousands of immigrants do we.
Our public services are run down by underfunding, also over demand by more people coming into the Country.
The argument is weak they contribute because those jobs could be done by locals, the EU made it a free for all stacked against the locals for employment.
Because in our area large amounts of Factory jobs were taken by EU migrant workers which were once jobs for local people.
I make comments on what I know and see, the politicians got the blame for misleading people.
Just may be people are a bit more switched on than we think and could see the problems caused be mass immigration seeing it with there eye's not what some ass hole politician was telling them.