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    Whitaker would have danced circles around Trinidad had they fought in 1994/5 like they should have. Don King kept Felix away from this fight to protect his record. Instead, he fought an aged, coked up version of Sweet Pea years later.

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    Ali would have taken out berbek in 4 rounds in his prime

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    Prime Mike McCallum had trouble with Steve Collins, and he was a better fighter than Benn or Eubanks, don't think those examples are a given. Collins actually get's a bit underrated for fighting those guys at the end of their careers, he had done well in just as deep beforehand.

    I think maybe Roy Jones vs Danny Green would have had a different outcome in 1995. How about Tyson vs Kevin McBride in 1988. Holyfield would have probably beaten Valuev a bit easier in 1993, that kind of thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Prime Mike McCallum had trouble with Steve Collins, and he was a better fighter than Benn or Eubanks, don't think those examples are a given. Collins actually get's a bit underrated for fighting those guys at the end of their careers, he had done well in just as deep beforehand.

    I think maybe Roy Jones vs Danny Green would have had a different outcome in 1995. How about Tyson vs Kevin McBride in 1988. Holyfield would have probably beaten Valuev a bit easier in 1993, that kind of thing?
    Steve Collins got lucky he was a
    limited tough nut. Never rated him Calzaghe would given him a boxing lesson simple. He beat a well over the hill Benn , and Eubank let him off the hook.
    When I think about boxing Steve Collins never comes to mind.!
    Sorry more forgetful than memorabil .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Prime Mike McCallum had trouble with Steve Collins, and he was a better fighter than Benn or Eubanks, don't think those examples are a given. Collins actually get's a bit underrated for fighting those guys at the end of their careers, he had done well in just as deep beforehand.

    I think maybe Roy Jones vs Danny Green would have had a different outcome in 1995. How about Tyson vs Kevin McBride in 1988. Holyfield would have probably beaten Valuev a bit easier in 1993, that kind of thing?
    Steve Collins got lucky he was a
    limited tough nut. Never rated him Calzaghe would given him a boxing lesson simple. He beat a well over the hill Benn , and Eubank let him off the hook.
    When I think about boxing Steve Collins never comes to mind.!
    Sorry more forgetful than memorabil .
    McCallum had more trouble with Watson that Steve. Collins also lost to another top US fighter, Taylor I think, so he was limited and only came to the UK because he got beat by the top US fighters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Prime Mike McCallum had trouble with Steve Collins, and he was a better fighter than Benn or Eubanks, don't think those examples are a given. Collins actually get's a bit underrated for fighting those guys at the end of their careers, he had done well in just as deep beforehand.

    I think maybe Roy Jones vs Danny Green would have had a different outcome in 1995. How about Tyson vs Kevin McBride in 1988. Holyfield would have probably beaten Valuev a bit easier in 1993, that kind of thing?
    Steve Collins got lucky he was a
    limited tough nut. Never rated him Calzaghe would given him a boxing lesson simple. He beat a well over the hill Benn , and Eubank let him off the hook.
    When I think about boxing Steve Collins never comes to mind.!
    Sorry more forgetful than memorabil .
    Let him off the hook? Umm, Collins beat him twice. That's 2-0, did he "let him off the hook both times?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Prime Mike McCallum had trouble with Steve Collins, and he was a better fighter than Benn or Eubanks, don't think those examples are a given. Collins actually get's a bit underrated for fighting those guys at the end of their careers, he had done well in just as deep beforehand.

    I think maybe Roy Jones vs Danny Green would have had a different outcome in 1995. How about Tyson vs Kevin McBride in 1988. Holyfield would have probably beaten Valuev a bit easier in 1993, that kind of thing?
    Steve Collins got lucky he was a
    limited tough nut. Never rated him Calzaghe would given him a boxing lesson simple. He beat a well over the hill Benn , and Eubank let him off the hook.
    When I think about boxing Steve Collins never comes to mind.!
    Sorry more forgetful than memorabil .
    Let him off the hook? Umm, Collins beat him twice. That's 2-0, did he "let him off the hook both times?"
    Eubank had Collins seriously hurt in one of the fights a peak Chris would have stopped Steve.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Ali over Berbick
    Tim Witherspoon over Brian Nix
    Golota over Saleta
    Adamek over Molina
    Ray Robinson over Joey Archer
    JC Chavez over Wiley
    Joe Louis over Marciano
    Nelson over Fenech
    Arguello over Scott Walker
    Mosely over Avanesyan
    Leonard over Camacho
    Duran over Camacho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Prime Mike McCallum had trouble with Steve Collins, and he was a better fighter than Benn or Eubanks, don't think those examples are a given. Collins actually get's a bit underrated for fighting those guys at the end of their careers, he had done well in just as deep beforehand.

    I think maybe Roy Jones vs Danny Green would have had a different outcome in 1995. How about Tyson vs Kevin McBride in 1988. Holyfield would have probably beaten Valuev a bit easier in 1993, that kind of thing?
    Steve Collins got lucky he was a
    limited tough nut. Never rated him Calzaghe would given him a boxing lesson simple. He beat a well over the hill Benn , and Eubank let him off the hook.
    When I think about boxing Steve Collins never comes to mind.!
    Sorry more forgetful than memorabil .
    Let him off the hook? Umm, Collins beat him twice. That's 2-0, did he "let him off the hook both times?"
    Eubank had Collins seriously hurt in one of the fights a peak Chris would have stopped Steve.
    Yes he did Collins was all at sea and Eubank would not hit him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    Whitaker would have danced circles around Trinidad had they fought in 1994/5 like they should have. Don King kept Felix away from this fight to protect his record. Instead, he fought an aged, coked up version of Sweet Pea years later.
    Tito beat some top hungry dangerous undefeated fighters at the time in Carr and Campus so please be kinder to Felix than that.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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