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    Prime Mike McCallum had trouble with Steve Collins, and he was a better fighter than Benn or Eubanks, don't think those examples are a given. Collins actually get's a bit underrated for fighting those guys at the end of their careers, he had done well in just as deep beforehand.

    I think maybe Roy Jones vs Danny Green would have had a different outcome in 1995. How about Tyson vs Kevin McBride in 1988. Holyfield would have probably beaten Valuev a bit easier in 1993, that kind of thing?
    Steve Collins got lucky he was a
    limited tough nut. Never rated him Calzaghe would given him a boxing lesson simple. He beat a well over the hill Benn , and Eubank let him off the hook.
    When I think about boxing Steve Collins never comes to mind.!
    Sorry more forgetful than memorabil .
    Let him off the hook? Umm, Collins beat him twice. That's 2-0, did he "let him off the hook both times?"
    Eubank had Collins seriously hurt in one of the fights a peak Chris would have stopped Steve.
    Yes he did Collins was all at sea and Eubank would not hit him.
    Okay, I'm trying to understand this excuse making. You can't be talking about the 2nd fight because scores be damned that was a blowout and at no point was Collins hurt.

    So you must be pointing to the first fight in which the judges determined Collins won 9, 8, and 7 rounds. You are specifically talking about the 1 right hand that Eubank landed in the 10th. The one where at no point did it appear Collins, a man who was never stopped in his entire career, was close to being stopped. You assume that if Eubank would have fought against his counter punching nature and lead he would have stopped a man that was never stopped? And on top of this you attribute him not stopping the man that was never stopped was due to him being at the end of his career even though it was 3 full years before the end of his career?

    Seems like you are making quite a leap. He should have thrown punches but it was Eubank being Eubank. This was a man shouting that he earned a draw exuberantly after his corner had told him he was well behind and needed a knockout.

    The dudes ego was and is out of control and it cost him, but that's just Eubank. Not old Eubank, just Eubank.
    Going from memory, didn't Eubank drop Collins as well as hurt him on the ropes.

    Chris peak performances came against Benn the first time and the comeback against Watson. That Chris would have beaten Steve.
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    ***Ray Robinson over Joey Archer***

    Especially under reasonable weather/temperature conditions.


    Leonard over Norris.....in one helluva entertaining fight.

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