Freddie Roach great trainer: Overated, Underated or Truly Great?

[SlimTrae]

There is definitely a chemistry factor to take into account. So there are probably some fighters Roach couldn't help anymore than say Manny Steward with Jermain Taylor. Horrible team. Or Mayweather Sr. and Hatton.

I do think that Lateef Kayode has potential and Freddie has failed to bring it out.
Maybe his biggest failure is trying to work with too many fighters at the same time.

Great posts all around.

[El Kabong]

There is definitely a chemistry factor to take into account. So there are probably some fighters Roach couldn't help anymore than say Manny Steward with Jermain Taylor. Horrible team. Or Mayweather Sr. and Hatton.

I do think that Lateef Kayode has potential and Freddie has failed to bring it out.
Maybe his biggest failure is trying to work with too many fighters at the same time.

Great posts all around.

I think Jermain Taylor was a lot like Chad Dawson....both guys had natural talent and ability, they achieved some great things, but they failed to address their shortcomings and it caught up with them. They did not take the extra steps to become true greats of the sport. Great fighters adapt and if you have a trainer that you do not listen to then what good is he? He could be the best trainer ever but if the fighter does not listen there's nothing that can be done.

Roach has surely come across a few of those guys in his career, but that's the life of a top tier trainer

[SlimTrae]

There is definitely a chemistry factor to take into account. So there are probably some fighters Roach couldn't help anymore than say Manny Steward with Jermain Taylor. Horrible team. Or Mayweather Sr. and Hatton.

I do think that Lateef Kayode has potential and Freddie has failed to bring it out.
Maybe his biggest failure is trying to work with too many fighters at the same time.

Great posts all around.

I think Jermain Taylor was a lot like Chad Dawson....both guys had natural talent and ability, they achieved some great things, but they failed to address their shortcomings and it caught up with them. They did not take the extra steps to become true greats of the sport. Great fighters adapt and if you have a trainer that you do not listen to then what good is he? He could be the best trainer ever but if the fighter does not listen there's nothing that can be done.

Roach has surely come across a few of those guys in his career, but that's the life of a top tier trainer

Taylor is an interesting subject. I agree he didn't live up to expectations but I also think he may have had a stamina issue.
Dawson really saddens me. As you stated he totally failed to listen to any of his trainers.
...Spent some time with Chad at the IBHOF, just a humble guy. Even laughed a bit. To see him without a belt...gotta hold him accountable first.