Carl Frampton v Leo Santa Cruz

[Dia bando]

I felt the showtime crew was very pro frampton. I was rooting for santa cruz, but felt frampton took the fight. There was were just too many times that frampton landed on wading santa cruz and stepped away before Santa cruz would open his eyes get his bearings and give chase. When Santa cruz fought like the taller fighter, he took those rounds. When he dove into the trenches, it felt like he played into framptons plans and as such it looked like frampton was is control more often than not. Frampton faded down the stretch as i expected he would but it didn't seem like LSC had much more of plan than wade in bomb frampton out and collect his belts and his checks.

LSC can blame himself for the loss. He lost the fight before the fight by leaving GBP in favor of Haymon. GBP would never had staged the fight in Belfast, NY it would have been in Vegas, San Antonio, El Paso or home of Los Angeles . This fight was close but more of a case of location location location. Had this been in any of the city's mentioned above it would be LSC celebrating a close fight or draw. No way a rematch in Belfast is fair. If a rematch is reached back in NY is a slightly more neutral site. Based on two judges scores no one in their right mind will believe LSC wins a decision and no kills PPV demand. Haymon screwed his fighter and LSC is one stupid fighter to fight in Belfast for a rematch. A rematch in a neutral site is a must! Hayman promotes both and chose to sit on the side of Frampton he is more marketable. If a rematch is made in Belfast and I were LSC I would be pissed and only accept back in NY with a different fight plan where only a KO will net him a win. Gotta be the money that got him to fight in NY to pay for dad's meds.

What fight were you watching Frampton made Cruz miss or land on gloves and arms.
Sister City LOL Cruz lost mate, either you like volume or quality punches.
Volume that missed or quality punches that score.
Was the fight in America yes is the home of Cruz is it not.
So not many Hispanics turned up and ever plastic paddy turned up to support Frampton LOL.

[J_Undisputed]

I felt the showtime crew was very pro frampton. I was rooting for santa cruz, but felt frampton took the fight. There was were just too many times that frampton landed on wading santa cruz and stepped away before Santa cruz would open his eyes get his bearings and give chase. When Santa cruz fought like the taller fighter, he took those rounds. When he dove into the trenches, it felt like he played into framptons plans and as such it looked like frampton was is control more often than not. Frampton faded down the stretch as i expected he would but it didn't seem like LSC had much more of plan than wade in bomb frampton out and collect his belts and his checks.

LSC can blame himself for the loss. He lost the fight before the fight by leaving GBP in favor of Haymon. GBP would never had staged the fight in Belfast, NY it would have been in Vegas, San Antonio, El Paso or home of Los Angeles . This fight was close but more of a case of location location location. Had this been in any of the city's mentioned above it would be LSC celebrating a close fight or draw. No way a rematch in Belfast is fair. If a rematch is reached back in NY is a slightly more neutral site. Based on two judges scores no one in their right mind will believe LSC wins a decision and no kills PPV demand. Haymon screwed his fighter and LSC is one stupid fighter to fight in Belfast for a rematch. A rematch in a neutral site is a must! Hayman promotes both and chose to sit on the side of Frampton he is more marketable. If a rematch is made in Belfast and I were LSC I would be pissed and only accept back in NY with a different fight plan where only a KO will net him a win. Gotta be the money that got him to fight in NY to pay for dad's meds.

What fight were you watching Frampton made Cruz miss or land on gloves and arms.
Sister City LOL Cruz lost mate, either you like volume or quality punches.
Volume that missed or quality punches that score.
Was the fight in America yes is the home of Cruz is it not.
So not many Hispanics turned up and ever plastic paddy turned up to support Frampton LOL.

If a fighter starts counting on location, location, location to net him the win... He deserves the loss. You train to win anywhere, in the most effective way possible. You don't just train for the KO if the fights not in your hometown. Everyone wonders why Boxing isn't what it was. The sports being watered down by people trying to squeak out the most money and wins for the smallest amount of effort possible. Santa Cruz figured his usually volume and swarming would be enough and it wasn't, there didn't seem to be any tactical training at all. A punch he was trying to land, a place he was trying to land from or real estate he was trying to occupy to force his opponent into a position he wanted him in. He just figured with enough pressure, Frampton would fold and he'd by points or stoppage. The rematch better be held in a phone booth if LSC wants a shot at winning with that plan.

[Kirkland Laing]

This was such a good fight I watched it again sober which is something I almost never do. I was watching the fight hoping Frampton was going to win but on the night I thought Santa Cruz managed to land enough big punches to take enough rounds. I was probably allowing for a house fighter outcome with Santa Cruz being the house fighter. I was definitely pissed. Watching it again even with quite a few close rounds I'd give it to Frampton by a round or two. It was a hell of a performance by him and he's going to be able to pick the fights he wants now although I don't think Haymon will want him fighting in Belfast, he'll want him primetime in America.

[superheavyrhun]

Carl Frampton parties with fans in Manhattan after winning world title - BBC Sport

Great video of Frampton enjoying the post fight celebrations - na na na na na naa naa naaa naaa naaa na na

[Addicted to_boxing]

I felt the showtime crew was very pro frampton. I was rooting for santa cruz, but felt frampton took the fight. There was were just too many times that frampton landed on wading santa cruz and stepped away before Santa cruz would open his eyes get his bearings and give chase. When Santa cruz fought like the taller fighter, he took those rounds. When he dove into the trenches, it felt like he played into framptons plans and as such it looked like frampton was is control more often than not. Frampton faded down the stretch as i expected he would but it didn't seem like LSC had much more of plan than wade in bomb frampton out and collect his belts and his checks.

LSC can blame himself for the loss. He lost the fight before the fight by leaving GBP in favor of Haymon. GBP would never had staged the fight in Belfast, NY it would have been in Vegas, San Antonio, El Paso or home of Los Angeles . This fight was close but more of a case of location location location. Had this been in any of the city's mentioned above it would be LSC celebrating a close fight or draw. No way a rematch in Belfast is fair. If a rematch is reached back in NY is a slightly more neutral site. Based on two judges scores no one in their right mind will believe LSC wins a decision and no kills PPV demand. Haymon screwed his fighter and LSC is one stupid fighter to fight in Belfast for a rematch. A rematch in a neutral site is a must! Hayman promotes both and chose to sit on the side of Frampton he is more marketable. If a rematch is made in Belfast and I were LSC I would be pissed and only accept back in NY with a different fight plan where only a KO will net him a win. Gotta be the money that got him to fight in NY to pay for dad's meds.

What fight were you watching Frampton made Cruz miss or land on gloves and arms.
Sister City LOL Cruz lost mate, either you like volume or quality punches.
Volume that missed or quality punches that score.
Was the fight in America yes is the home of Cruz is it not.
So not many Hispanics turned up and ever plastic paddy turned up to support Frampton LOL.

you are reinforcing what I said. Of the fight had been on Vegas it would be the reverse every bean on the west coast would be there. I am not disputing Frampton win it was a close fight. Saw fight with Box Nation narrators hugging for Frampton and on Showtime same thing. Every punch Frampton hit LSC was highlighted. Only difference is Box Nation had it a draw as did I. I do see how Frampton won a decision but not by that disparity on two of the judges cards. That is what made a great fight stink !!!

[Beanz]

I felt the showtime crew was very pro frampton. I was rooting for santa cruz, but felt frampton took the fight. There was were just too many times that frampton landed on wading santa cruz and stepped away before Santa cruz would open his eyes get his bearings and give chase. When Santa cruz fought like the taller fighter, he took those rounds. When he dove into the trenches, it felt like he played into framptons plans and as such it looked like frampton was is control more often than not. Frampton faded down the stretch as i expected he would but it didn't seem like LSC had much more of plan than wade in bomb frampton out and collect his belts and his checks.

LSC can blame himself for the loss. He lost the fight before the fight by leaving GBP in favor of Haymon. GBP would never had staged the fight in Belfast, NY it would have been in Vegas, San Antonio, El Paso or home of Los Angeles . This fight was close but more of a case of location location location. Had this been in any of the city's mentioned above it would be LSC celebrating a close fight or draw. No way a rematch in Belfast is fair. If a rematch is reached back in NY is a slightly more neutral site. Based on two judges scores no one in their right mind will believe LSC wins a decision and no kills PPV demand. Haymon screwed his fighter and LSC is one stupid fighter to fight in Belfast for a rematch. A rematch in a neutral site is a must! Hayman promotes both and chose to sit on the side of Frampton he is more marketable. If a rematch is made in Belfast and I were LSC I would be pissed and only accept back in NY with a different fight plan where only a KO will net him a win. Gotta be the money that got him to fight in NY to pay for dad's meds.

What fight were you watching Frampton made Cruz miss or land on gloves and arms.
Sister City LOL Cruz lost mate, either you like volume or quality punches.
Volume that missed or quality punches that score.
Was the fight in America yes is the home of Cruz is it not.
So not many Hispanics turned up and ever plastic paddy turned up to support Frampton LOL.

you are reinforcing what I said. Of the fight had been on Vegas it would be the reverse every bean on the west coast would be there. I am not disputing Frampton win it was a close fight. Saw fight with Box Nation narrators hugging for Frampton and on Showtime same thing. Every punch Frampton hit LSC was highlighted. Only difference is Box Nation had it a draw as did I. I do see how Frampton won a decision but not by that disparity on two of the judges cards. That is what made a great fight stink !!!

You can't let the commentators ruin it for you, if that was the case you would either have to turn the sound down or just go an watch live shows exclusively. The location thing is nothing to be hung up on either. New York whilst of course having a sizeable American Irish population is not Belfast's sister city as you have claimed, Boston maybe but Belfast is actually a part of the UK unlike the republic of Ireland. That is why Frampton had a lot of traveling Brit fans as well as the Irish contingent. He still had to fly thousands of miles across the Atlantic for it. Ireland of course has a proud fighting heritage but it is dwarfed by Mexico, as is Northern Ireland in which Belfast sits. It is no surprise then that the commentators got carried away with the magnitude of the achievement.

That leave ones daft wide score card. The other two cards were both reasonable and Frampton was both respectful of Cruz and quick to talk of an immediate rematch. Still a great fight.