Scientific Fraud

[Gandalf]

Should We Be Having Kids In The Age Of Climate Change? : NPR


SCIENCE!

I think he has a point. The global population will expand by a billion more in another 9 years and our economic and social systems are at 'melting point' as it is. Leaving aside climate change, you have to factor in the scarcity of resources and how our neo liberal economic systems are creating more and more inequality. So, of those billion children who will have the children? I would hazard a guess and say it is mostly people of lower intelligence with less resources and into a world of growing inequality and fewer and fewer opportunities. Then you have to factor in technology and the loss of manufacturing, service and driving jobs to robots. There are not going to be many jobs available.

Unless we can radically transform how we organise our societies, then people should be having fewer children and in the West we are already seeing the consequences of saddling young people with an incredibly deranged and unjust system. They are simply not having sex and birth rates are dropping exponentially. In a world of progress and opportunity, people should and will have children, but in a system of central banks and war you end up with panda in a cage syndrome and people just want out. Who would want to perpetuate this system onto others? How cruel could one be? Man has shown no desire to evolve or adapt and the price will be felt long before we die. The pain should logically end with us.

This is a topic that I have thought about a lot over the years and I think the people quoted in the article have a point. I think to focus on climate change is limited as it is only one factor among several others. Humanity will not progress unless we change the financial system, the war machine and also start to respect our planet.

Did you know that more than 60% of all food is thrown away. That right there is an example of how our system just does not work. We have potential, but we literally throw it away.

[Gandalf]

When it comes to heat, it has been the hottest summer since 1994. August is supposed to average out at 29'C for the maximum daily temperature, but it has been 33-35'C EVERY DAY this month and not a single day of rain. It is pretty exceptional. Not a degree or two above average, but about 5'C above. Now maybe it is a natural cycle, but it is far from normal. Is it any wonder I am currently so against ties?

[El Kabong]

Now that Hurricane Matthew is making landfall in Florida (1st major hurricane hitting the US in 11 years) the Global Warming Alarmists are out en masse.

Hillary Clinton


The sincerity with which she speaks is uncanny...."2015 was the hottest year on record (dramatic pause) and the science is clear"


Barack Obama has made it known that the Syrian Civil War wasn't caused by Assad being a bad guy...it was Anthropogenic Global Warming caused droughts


According to Al Gore we're already past the point of no return so why even listen to him anymore?


But no there's a hurricane so it MUST be the fault of humanity .....fucking ridiculous

[TitoFan]

Quit picking the Hillary Clintons and the Al Gores as the poster child for Climate Change!

Hillary and Al together know as much about climate science as my next door neighbor's dog.

[El Kabong]

Quit picking the Hillary Clintons and the Al Gores as the poster child for Climate Change!

Hillary and Al together know as much about climate science as my next door neighbor's dog.

If they are bringing it up for political gain I'm going to hammer them with it.

Remember when hurricanes were just "weather"?

[TitoFan]

Quit picking the Hillary Clintons and the Al Gores as the poster child for Climate Change!

Hillary and Al together know as much about climate science as my next door neighbor's dog.

If they are bringing it up for political gain I'm going to hammer them with it.

Remember when hurricanes were just "weather"?

Well they do deserve it (the hammering). It's too bad tho that like with any other issue, the sensible folks get obscured by these morons who nothing about the subject, but use it as a political football. All it does is polarize people and detract attention to those who are really serious and really knowledgeable.

[El Kabong]

"Subject: Re: Energy infrastructure fact sheet & KXL oped

Recirculating both the fact sheet and op-ed reflecting edits and comments from Jake, Nikki, and Joel. In answer to research: changed 20 to 40, and Trevor can provide calculations based on EIA data, if reporters need it, on the Mexico/Canada trade point. It isn't written up neatly in one place online, unfortunately. Joel, we pumped up the climate impacts but in discussing with Jake decided we do still need to address why she's making her position known, when she has previously said she will wait for the President to make a decision. Added a line about wanting to let voters know where she stands, and added a more expansive graf about making the US the leader in fighting climate change and becoming a clean energy superpower. Nipped and tucked elsewhere to keep the word count down. Knowing we are still working out rollout timing - comms, policy, political, do you clear these to go forward to the book? Thanks all."


https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8440


Seems legit

[El Kabong]

Post on substance bcollins go ahead....sort your data out, make sure it's catastrophic enough and tell us we're all doomed unless we repent.

Tell me that carbon offsets are different than paying Indulgences.

Tell me the seas will rise and we'll have more hurricanes.


Or use some graphs and charts...and hey who cares if you fake the data, you obviously don't mind.....SCIENCE! !!! It's fake it til you make it these days...sad.

[El Kabong]

The fact that MR SCIENCE bcollins can read "we changed 20 to 40" and "we pumped up the data" and STILL have the fucking gall to try and lecture on the "science" of Anthropogenic Climate Change....it's laughable.

Climate change is a joke and sir YOU are a joke.

Winter will soon be here and if it's mild CLIMATE CHANGE and if we get lots of snow CLIMATE CHANGE and if the sun rises tomorrow CLIMATE CHANGE.


Let me ask you directly, bcollins....what is the PERFECT climate? Because if us humans are negatively impacting things then certainly there must be a baseline of how things SHOULD be. So what is it?

[p4pking]

He's not the one coming across as a joke here.

[El Kabong]

He's not the one coming across as a joke here.

Alright p4pking, buy into Anthropogenic Climate Change despite knowing that the "scientific numbers" are changed on a whim.

That seems like the wisest idea.

[p4pking]

He's not the one coming across as a joke here.

Alright p4pking, buy into Anthropogenic Climate Change despite knowing that the "scientific numbers" are changed on a whim.

That seems like the wisest idea.

I'm not "buying" into anything. I'm not an ideologue, but I'm also not scientifically literate and therefore can't argue with, much less ridicule, people who are in good faith. I don't doubt there are countless examples of skewed numbers to support political beliefs or agendas, but it also seems like there is somewhat of a consensus in the scientific community which doesn't support your stance, which seems to be based on the same things. Asserting that the majority of scientists working in the field are more or less shills, without understanding the subject matter nearly enough to form your own opinion, isn't exactly the wisest idea either, surely?