Are people overlooking Carlos Cuadras' chances against Roman Gonzalez?

[Spicoli]

Glad someone stayed awake for this

Fight has been lost in the day. Just don't see unhittable 'superman' with Gonzalez.

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[Spicoli]

So apparently Arguello was a 80's Camaro Cuadras finding some holes last couple rounds but that return is going to catch up badly.

[armin]

gonzales won but he should probably not move up any further, he also looked the worse for wear n tear. Fun fairly competitive fight

[Freedom]

I scored it a draw, 114-114.

Gonzalez landed more, but Cuadras landed the harder, more hurtful punches. Evidence of this is Gonzalez' face.

[powerpuncher]

Big respect to both fighters. Chocolatito is a very good fighter. He has good movement and throws very well with both hands. Cuadras proved that he is legit. I wouldn't mind a rematch

[J_Undisputed]

Happy with the result. Roman fought the fight he needed to fight against a naturally bigger guy from the calzaghe school of hard flurrying. When you have a guy that likes to ray leonard his way around the ring and then ambush you with a flurries whenever you get in, you either have to have the power to throw with him and catch him in the middle or you have to stay on him and take his room away and never let him get set. For a smaller guy without the power to knock Cuadras out and a reach disadvantage, he had to take a few to get in counter, disrupt his rhythm and score while Cuadras was on the run and keep him from getting set.

It was uglier than chocolatito's normal fights but it was warranted given the level of opponent, style, size and reach differences. I don't know if we'll see this all the time. One might argue he still took a lot less punches than he could have. He does a lot of the little things better than almost any fighter i've seen. His footwork is excellent, he's very good at gauging his ranges and has this knack for having his hands in the right place at almost all times. The way he carries his hands has him in the position to throw short punches (almost like 6 inch punches, but at the same time pick off a lot of counters both actively and passively)

[chris6878]

roman doesnt care much for defense. if he steps up any more in weight, he might get his head knocked off. Walking forward and just throwing punches all night. THen he moved his head to avoid here and there

[Ron Swanson]

Just watched the fight again. Still thought it was clear Gonzalez took it, looked up the rd by rd punch stats and they mirrored what I saw. Except the 12th I couldn't tell who landed more and if I guessed I would have guessed Cuadras. But there was a long stretch where Gonzalez was the only one working so I can't say him showing more was egregious.

The telling difference for me was leverage. Cuadras would flurry, Gonzalez uses combinations. Gonzalez is so skilled, similar to Spence every punch has great leverage.

Fun fight, would love to see a rematch in 2018. I want Gonzalez to get 2 more fights at this weight and then an Inoue fight. If he could slip a Cuadras fight in next and then a soft seat before Inoue that would be fantastic.

[Kirkland Laing]

Choco's face getting interviewed told the story of this fight. He's going to have problems knocking bigger guys out and he's going to take plenty back himself. I think HBO will want the Estrada rematch next but they're probably not going to offer him as much as he wants for the purse.

[Kirkland Laing]

Glad someone stayed awake for this

Fight has been lost in the day. Just don't see unhittable 'superman' with Gonzalez.

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[Kirkland Laing]

Gonzalez is winning but he has a lot of faith in his chin. He could run into something here.

[Spicoli]

Romans face is expanding and bit busted up.

[Spicoli]

Inoue is watching some churning hand speed on Gonzalez here and thinking big things..good scrap here tonight.

[Spicoli]

FFS can we make sure Max Kellerman never works lead on another HBO card. Gonzalez getting all he can stomach last few rounds, dude is being worked and all slugger again late rounds

[Kirkland Laing]

Gonzalez needs to knock his opponents out to keep HBO happy. I'm guessing they're going to push for the Estrada rematch next.