Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
Why Canelo? Why should the MW champion fight the 4th or 5th best Jr MW?

Golovkin needs to fight someone on his level. If he can't find it at MW he should move up.
So who are the 3-4 people ahead of Canelo at Jr. Middle?


Why should GGG move up, Hopkins didn't move up when he couldn't find a true middleweight to fight did he? Hopkins is a great fighter right? I think he's a great fighter, his record shows he was a great middleweight champion...why not go the Hopkins route? Especially since Andre Ward, the ONLY guy at 168 worth moving up for has gone to 175 to fight Kovalev? Are you suggesting GGG move to 175? I mean I guess he could add that kind of mass, but it'll take maybe 2 years for him to really truly be a 175 fighter.


On belts it's just BJS and Jacobs left at 160.


GGG vs Canelo is a big match providing Canelo beats Liam Smith (another potential opponent if he was to beat Canelo). As far as money, fan interest, etc goes there's no bigger match for GGG than Canelo, bar Mayweather Jr and that fight simply will never happen ergo GGG vs Canelo is the fight that SHOULD happen.
Andrade would beat Canelo without a doubt. I forget which Charlo is the good one but he would beat Canelo too. J-Rock might beat him, Lara might beat him, he'll the other Charlo might beat him. There is a reason Canelo went to 155, to ravoid the best guys at 154. If he was at 154 he'd become a mandatory to one of the guys that would beat him. There is a reason they chose Liam Smith. It is not a coincidence they chose the perceived weakest champion, they don't want Canelo to lose.

As for all the talk talk talk about championships, they only matter to historians. In truth all that matters is who you fight. Hopkins isn't a legend because of his defenses against shlubs. He's a legend for who all he fought wins and loses. All the excuses in the world and all the title defenses don't change the fact that GGGs ledger is crap. Where is his great fight? When will it come? The answer is when he fights someone on his level. If he needs to go to 170 to get a good fight he should do it. The dude is 34 years old and his best opponent is a WW that moved up on 2 months notice. A WW that himself had only ever fought one good fighter. I don't want GGG to retire and think "I thought you were great but I have no f'n clue because your ledger is shit". Years ago I said this man was special, I want to know if I was right.
This is all well and good if you're trying to justify GGG As an ATG, but who's trying to do that? He's a good champ, easily the best of his division, who may be capable of going up a division, but nowadays it's easy to avoid someone.
Technically he has his faults and due to the lack of opposition, will never be seen as an ATG.
Not everybody can be an ATG.