Luis "King Kong" Ortiz

[erics44]

its a shit fight Ortiz Scott

[Spicoli]

Quick turnaround vs David Allen in 2 weeks! Missed him against Whyte but is Allen up to his neck? Ortiz looked pretty pedestrian vs survival Scott and they're simply trying to establish the "beast" and KO hype.

[Primo Carnera]

Allen's self imposed retirement never lasted long then! can't see the point of this myself. Ortiz is supposedly World Level, Allen was a punchbag for Whyte at British Level. and before anybody says "stay busy fight" or "establishing his profile in the UK" or any other such bullshit, fuck that, load of crap. just a bit of Shelf stacking by Matchroom for their Box Offfice Bill .
Allen's a nice guy, but he takes too many punches. He's Mentally unstable by his own admission, has gambling and financial issues , again by his own admission, so he's begging Hearn for the fight.
This is when tragic things happen.

[ross]

I like Dave Allen, he's very personable, funny and hard as nails. He has a lot of potential but wants everything now.

He only had about 9 am fights. If he didn't have that self destructive personality he could have been going places. If he'd have waited for a couple more fights experience before Whyte he could have had the beating of him. He's just been a sparring partner for so long that he didn't throw enough punches. He had Whyte stumbling back just from pressure in the last round.

Hes been screaming to Hearn for months for a Price fight and as soon as Hearn signed Ortiz he called for that. I like Allen and because of that I'm going to be a bit biased BUT Scotts chin ain't the best and he got through that fight and when he threw the right hand Ortiz was there to be caught. Ortiz and Allen are the same height so he won't dwarf Allen. Dave has acknowledged his mistake and has said a few times he's going to put it on Ortiz and let his hands go. He's been training the last few weeks knowing something will probably be offered last minute for the Dec 10th show so hopefully is at least fit. He's been doing a lot of sparring with Dillian Whyte in his camp.

It will be a better fight than the Scott fight and he has a solid chin and legs like a bull so will be able to pressure Ortiz and if he can keep in his face for a few rounds at 37 or whatever he's supposed to be it will be interesting.

[Alpha]

Better late than never: Ortiz joins WBC/ VADA Clean Fighter Program.

[palmerq]

Better late than never: Ortiz joins WBC/ VADA Clean Fighter Program.

and maybe from now on the performances of ortiz drop and he starts looking his age in the ring.. :S

[Alpha]

Better late than never: Ortiz joins WBC/ VADA Clean Fighter Program.

and maybe from now on the performances of ortiz drop and he starts looking his age in the ring.. :S

That'll be the only way Wilder will fight him.