Dems says "Conspiracy theory" but WHINED in 2000 when Gore lost!

[El Kabong]

1. So can you be Brexit without being dumb in your view Beanz?

2. I understand that entirely but when you have a "borderless world" that is EXACTLY what you are inviting. There are 4th generation immigrants to Germany who can't won't or don't speak German. There are such large groups coming to our countries where YES there ARE "no-go zones"....is that not exactly what you're against?!?! Not everyone has social tact, not everyone has respect for where they are and a fair few of these migrants are going to act exactly how you describe an Englishman in Spain....do you not see it? Are you just not affected by it?

3. I'm pragmatic...but I ain't suicidal culturally or otherwise.

4. I love art and literature and all that as well, but I look at recent art and it's just shit really....a ham handed approach of what was once counter culture. Desecrate Christian/Catholic images or statues or American flag or what have you "OOOOOH Yeah! That's BAD ASS!!!" there's no ramification for such a thing....do it to a Quran and now we're talking....figure out who you aren't allowed to mock and then you know who has the power. And I'm not a controversial person with my art at all (I paint, not very well) and I think it's just weak minded to do this sort of trite "Down with the man!" kind of art...talk about passe and there's no soul in it at all. Is this art? What is the purpose of it, the meaning of it?http://www.ewtn.co.uk/news/europe/es...ge-of-our-lady

5. Like The Great Man W.C. Fields said "I never vote FOR I always vote AGAINST!"....that is what this election will be. Because even his own party does not like him it means Trump can do less damage as President and that is partially why people support him. Hillary = corruption....go look, study, find out for yourself....I'm not so much a Trump fan but I DO want America to be great, I won't sell my nation down the river so some dirtbag Globalist can line his fucking pockets....NO....I want government to leave me and my business the fuck alone. Rand Paul is MY guy, he's no longer in the mix now I'm voting AGAINST Hillary....do you get that? I want to be sure I am being clear. Trump might be a bloviating idiot, but Hillary Clinton is evil

[Gandalf]

I'm pro Brexit and I am not dumb. I am just anti Orwellian superstates, anti un-elected dictatorship and pro nations remembering that they should exist for the people already there. Too many are already left behind. The fact that the Tories are doing what they are doing and thugs are getting violent has nothing to do with what I am about. Globalism, common purpose, the IMF, and the CFR and Fabians are a very dangerous and powerful lot and it isn't for the greater good. As for my sense of perspective. Well, I have a few things going on that I am not going to talk about as I don't talk anymore.

[Beanz]

I'm pro Brexit and I am not dumb. I am just anti Orwellian superstates, anti un-elected dictatorship and pro nations remembering that they should exist for the people already there. Too many are already left behind. The fact that the Tories are doing what they are doing and thugs are getting violent has nothing to do with what I am about. Globalism, common purpose, the IMF, and the CFR and Fabians are a very dangerous and powerful lot and it isn't for the greater good. As for my sense of perspective. Well, I have a few things going on that I am not going to talk about as I don't talk anymore.

Nobody said you or all Pro Brexiters where dumb. That has just become a routine argument by pro Trump and Brexit people who ironically like to turn themselves into the persecuted minority. I hesitate to call it a complex but it is a strawman argument invented to discredit anyone who questions them. The Tories under May are about to Torpedo the NHS. If you want an example of too many people left behind you need look no further than the victims of a Tory led super corporation in which a cabinet of millionaires asset strip a country and claim to be broke whilst spending the money on weapons with which to bomb innocent civilians. The Tory Government under May are not just a potentially dangerous lot these are proven bastards with form. You can no longer take a history of art 'A' Level because everything has come down to the bottom Dollar, and while that may seem quite minor, it symptomatic of a future in which nothing of value is preserved and vacuous money chasing yuppies snort whilst every other fucker is crushed under the corporate machine. The PRo Brexit promise of Millions more for the NHS has now been revealed as not one extra penny for the NHS. The fact that Tories are doing what they are doing has EVERYTHING to do with what you are talking about, because the money is in making it private for every Tory and their friends and relatives. There is no stopping it now that May and her cronies have convinced the populace that the Pro Brexit vote is a mandate for them to do whatever they choose. They have insisted that nothing will be debated in Parliament. With all due respect you have not had to live here the last few years and the fuckers are tightening the thumbscrews way more than any European superstate. They are killing people off and suggesting that being rich is more important than being educated whilst patronizing a surprisingly compliant population of people willingly stupefying themselves by buying into that profit led empty nonsense. They see the shiny baubles at the top of the tree and think that could be them without realising how unlikely that is when they are so easy to crush underfoot when hanging low. Small enterprise and tradesmen don't need to fall far to hit rock bottom and do not have the safety net that those cunts at the top have created by treading on everyone below for generations and now pillaging the piggy banks that people had invested in education and health. You have academies instead of schools that are selling off playing fields to build houses on, staffed by people without teaching qualifications. That is exactly what America would get under Trump who is his own special interest company. Alex Jones is crying for Christs sake like a spoilt brat for another baby with a squirrel on his head and people are buying him as an alternative? You are correct ,TOO many are already left behind, but not in the UK or America. In the countries they are helping to tear to pieces, Places like Yemen and Syria. That is not the fault of the EU. This is something they are doing in the name of every British and American citizen as they sell weapons to the Saudis and blame national problems on refugees they help to create. This is happening now every day and people are worried about whining in an election that has not even been held? Infowars are selling you just another flavour of cool aid much like Assange and wikileaks, and people are lapping it up. It 's not just the BBC and CNN or FOX, Al Jeezera , RT, they all are filtering stuff through their own belief systems and agendas. Leaving the European Union under a representative government that had at least laid out plans and aims in doing so, with a commitment to plugging the gaping holes left and a commitment to maintain some kind of genial diplomacy and preserve huma rights and investment and preservation projects might have been a progressive option if they had their own house in order, But Brexit at all costs, whilst tearing up alliances and ditching everything built up over years is just wanton vandalism. Fucking over the country to stuff more foi gras in their greedy little mouths, all the time pretending that 'they turk our jobs' and that every pro brexit voter is a lifelong Tory who would want them to dismantle the education system and health service to stuff every spare plastic fiver into their back pockets as the NHS crumbles.You wait to May and Trump get together it will make Thatcher and Reagan look like John and Yoko. God help us