Joshua v Klitschko edges closer - December 2016

[ross]

Fury v Wlad was one of the worst HW title fights since Tyson v Boneclutcher , so why has the public taken to Joshua v Wlad and showed no interest in Fury v Wlad 2 ?
Simple really people like fighter with KO power in the HW division , watching a lumbering light punching fighter fiddle his way to a win , with the punch output of an asthmatic grandmother in a yawn fest isn't exciting.
Wlad is at the end of his career and needs to prove he isn't shot ( I personally think he is ) , Joshua if he tucks in his chin should win by KO.

Fury v Klitschko 2 was about as anticipated as Mayweather v Pacquiao 2 for the same reason. It's a foregone conclusion. Klitschko and Pacquiao were bviously going to lose to the superior fighters again.

Whereas they could both still do well against the lesser fighters of the division.

Only thing is that it wasn't really a foregone conclusion was it, Klit had a much better chance second time round than Manny did.
There were things Klit could have changed in the second fight whereas I don't think Manny could have done a fat lot to change the outcome.

What was Klitschko going to change? Throwing more punches which everyone accepts would get him hurt like he did a few times late in the first fight when he tried to open up. A Tyson win was a foregone conclusion.

Dont forget this was Tysons biggest test. He is still young and getting better and the experience he got here would have raised his skill level further.

Mayweather was at the end of a long career and will not be getting any better and neither will have Pacqiuao.

Looking at opinion here I'm right that most people will think Wladimir has more of a chance against Joshua than he does against Fury.

[smashup]

I actually think and fully expect AJ to win this by KO pretty early, no way he's gonna let Wlad hug him to death as Hearn will ensure the ref is fair.

This is rumoured to be at the MEN in Manchester so Wlad instantly loses all of his cheating advantages that he tried against Fury (The Gloves, The bouncy castle ring, Platform shoes at the weigh in to appear the same size as Fury etc) and let's be honest here the smart money says Wlad used these same cheating tactics for years and years defending in Germany simply because he could get away with it.

Fury proved that when you take away those cheating advantages Wlad was so used to he was nothing and that for me was a definite sign that Wlad is weak mentally.

Wlad will be well out of his comfort zone if it is infact at the MEN Arena and under massive pressure as it's the last role of the dice which means he's gonna have to let his hands go for once which will simply allow AJ to counter him with huge fast right handers which will be the KO punch.

On the other hand they have sparred in the past so maybe Wlad got the better of AJ in that spar and thinks he has an easy nights work?

Intriguing fight and there's no way this is anything but a "proper" fight

AJ by KO well inside the distance for me though.

[Memphis]

A proper chin or be chinned heavyweight fight, this could be a Foreman Lyle affair.

Joshua wont fuck about and in doing so will give Wlad the kind of target he just didnt see against Fury.

If Joshua chins him and chins him in good style, Wlad will definitely be shot.

[Master]

My only concern for AJ is that he has never gone the distance and Wlad will definitely being trying to do that against the youngster.

[TitoFan]

I'll be rooting for an AJ win by KO. I just think we need a proper changing of the guard, sort to speak. I thought Fury might fill that role, but the title fight stunk, and Fury has imploded. The division needs excitement injected back into it. Wilder and AJ are the future of the division, if they can continue to clean up their rough edges. I hope it's an exciting fight, and that Wlad puts forth a clean, crowd-pleasing effort. I realize that's like wishing for world peace, but what the hell.

[smashup]

The MEN arena have just dropped a MASSIVE hint on their twitter page that this fight will be held their


Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko: Has Manchester Arena confirmed it’s hosting fight? | Daily Mail Online

[Fenster]

The way Wlad has reacted to getting hit over the years doesn't bode well for him in this fight. If he's not totally shitting it from the start, he soon will be once a few bombs whistle past his bonce.

On the other hand, the jump in class from Martin/Breazeale is still massive even though it's possible Wlad was shot against Fury. There'll be a million smug "I told ya so" if AJ comes unstuck.

[smashup]

That's the reason im predicting a fairly early win for AJ by KO.
Just read that this will be the richest Heavyweight fight ever on UK soil and that a rematch clause is in the deal.

"The £30m showdown is to be formally announced this week, and will include a rematch clause, with Joshua's International Boxing Federation crown, the lesser International Boxing Organisation title, and potentially the World Boxing Association belt... the growing spoils for a contest in which the protagonists will share an estimated £15m purse," says Davies.

The MEN arena pretty much announced it will happen there earlier too

http://www.theweek.co.uk/77659/joshua-vs-klitschko-how-many-belts-will-be-up-for-grabs?

[El Kabong]

Anthony Joshua looks amazing right now, but this is a gigantic jump in class and let's not forget these two have sparred together before so they have a little knowledge of each other.

How is AJ's chin, how is his stamina, how does he handle adversity in the ring....he hasn't had to answer these things as a professional yet and that could bode very well for him or that could be very bad for him.


As far as Wlad is concerned he's been training assuming there is a fight that is going to happen, I just hope he hasn't burnt himself out doing that. He's older sure, but he hasn't just gone to shit and lost any and all skill. Wlad will more than likely have a better fight than he did vs Fury simply because it'll be difficult for him to have a worse fight than that one.


Can a 100% AJ beat a Wlad who is at 70% or 50%? We don't know. We can guess, but we don't know....this fight can be Old fighter schools youngster, it could be Youngster out hustles and out muscles old lion, or it could be they are evenly matched.



I think Wlad comes back with a late stoppage of AJ who fights valiantly but is just out skilled because Wlad will have a plan A, B, C, and he'll be very cagey about things. Wlad is used to the spotlight being on him, AJ I think that spotlight can melt him, he'll be very tense early on, it'll sap his stamina, and Wlad will chop him down....if AJ blitzes Wlad early he had better land and follow up quickly or he's going to be in trouble. Right now I'm saying 70% chance Wlad wins 30% AJ stops him.

[Batman]

Fury v Wlad was one of the worst HW title fights since Tyson v Boneclutcher , so why has the public taken to Joshua v Wlad and showed no interest in Fury v Wlad 2 ?
Simple really people like fighter with KO power in the HW division , watching a lumbering light punching fighter fiddle his way to a win , with the punch output of an asthmatic grandmother in a yawn fest isn't exciting.
Wlad is at the end of his career and needs to prove he isn't shot ( I personally think he is ) , Joshua if he tucks in his chin should win by KO.

Fury v Klitschko 2 was about as anticipated as Mayweather v Pacquiao 2 for the same reason. It's a foregone conclusion. Klitschko and Pacquiao were bviously going to lose to the superior fighters again.

Whereas they could both still do well against the lesser fighters of the division.

Only thing is that it wasn't really a foregone conclusion was it, Klit had a much better chance second time round than Manny did.
There were things Klit could have changed in the second fight whereas I don't think Manny could have done a fat lot to change the outcome.

What was Klitschko going to change? Throwing more punches which everyone accepts would get him hurt like he did a few times late in the first fight when he tried to open up. A Tyson win was a foregone conclusion.

Dont forget this was Tysons biggest test. He is still young and getting better and the experience he got here would have raised his skill level further.

Mayweather was at the end of a long career and will not be getting any better and neither will have Pacqiuao.

Looking at opinion here I'm right that most people will think Wladimir has more of a chance against Joshua than he does against Fury.

Lets not spoil the thread with endless Fury promotions, for the time being he is irrelevant, lets talk about Klitschko and AJ.

[Dark Lord Al]

Fury v Wlad was one of the worst HW title fights since Tyson v Boneclutcher , so why has the public taken to Joshua v Wlad and showed no interest in Fury v Wlad 2 ?
Simple really people like fighter with KO power in the HW division , watching a lumbering light punching fighter fiddle his way to a win , with the punch output of an asthmatic grandmother in a yawn fest isn't exciting.
Wlad is at the end of his career and needs to prove he isn't shot ( I personally think he is ) , Joshua if he tucks in his chin should win by KO.

Fury v Klitschko 2 was about as anticipated as Mayweather v Pacquiao 2 for the same reason. It's a foregone conclusion. Klitschko and Pacquiao were bviously going to lose to the superior fighters again.

Whereas they could both still do well against the lesser fighters of the division.

Only thing is that it wasn't really a foregone conclusion was it, Klit had a much better chance second time round than Manny did.
There were things Klit could have changed in the second fight whereas I don't think Manny could have done a fat lot to change the outcome.

What was Klitschko going to change? Throwing more punches which everyone accepts would get him hurt like he did a few times late in the first fight when he tried to open up. A Tyson win was a foregone conclusion.

Dont forget this was Tysons biggest test. He is still young and getting better and the experience he got here would have raised his skill level further.

Mayweather was at the end of a long career and will not be getting any better and neither will have Pacqiuao.

Looking at opinion here I'm right that most people will think Wladimir has more of a chance against Joshua than he does against Fury.

Lets not spoil the thread with endless Fury promotions, for the time being he is irrelevant, lets talk about Klitschko and AJ.

To be fair there is no need to mention fury as he has no boxing licence due to drugs and health.
He is also retired , so lets move on.