Joshua v Klitschko edges closer - December 2016

**ross** · 10-18-2016 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Batman

He is a paper champion and he is overrated, if he beats Klit then he has answered the questions asked of him.

I'm not saying he isn't the real deal at all, just that he hasn't been in a position to prove himself up until now.

I've not really paid much attention to Masters views on AJ but they don't seem too harsh if that is all that they are

You love reffing us 2 ! ��
He's not a paper Champion. If he's a paper champion, so is Wilder .
And he's not overrated either really.
He may be overpaid to date and as a bi-product of that , over hyped, but it's not his fault he's ko'd everyone he's fought.
If he beats Wlad does that change everything? Or does everyone say Wlad is finished or even Fury finished him?
No win really.

Fury didn't finish him same as Mayweather didn't finish Canelo. He was just too good for him.

**Primo Carnera** · 10-18-2016 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Batman

He is a paper champion and he is overrated, if he beats Klit then he has answered the questions asked of him.

I'm not saying he isn't the real deal at all, just that he hasn't been in a position to prove himself up until now.

I've not really paid much attention to Masters views on AJ but they don't seem too harsh if that is all that they are

You love reffing us 2 ! ��
He's not a paper Champion. If he's a paper champion, so is Wilder .
And he's not overrated either really.
He may be overpaid to date and as a bi-product of that , over hyped, but it's not his fault he's ko'd everyone he's fought.
If he beats Wlad does that change everything? Or does everyone say Wlad is finished or even Fury finished him?
No win really.

Fury didn't finish him same as Mayweather didn't finish Canelo. He was just too good for him.

You're right, Fury didn't finish Him, he hardly gave him a hiding. Wlad finished himself, too old and too reluctant to get hit.

**ross** · 10-18-2016 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Batman

He is a paper champion and he is overrated, if he beats Klit then he has answered the questions asked of him.

I'm not saying he isn't the real deal at all, just that he hasn't been in a position to prove himself up until now.

I've not really paid much attention to Masters views on AJ but they don't seem too harsh if that is all that they are

You love reffing us 2 ! ��
He's not a paper Champion. If he's a paper champion, so is Wilder .
And he's not overrated either really.
He may be overpaid to date and as a bi-product of that , over hyped, but it's not his fault he's ko'd everyone he's fought.
If he beats Wlad does that change everything? Or does everyone say Wlad is finished or even Fury finished him?
No win really.

Fury didn't finish him same as Mayweather didn't finish Canelo. He was just too good for him.

You're right, Fury didn't finish Him, he hardly gave him a hiding. Wlad finished himself, too old and too reluctant to get hit.

Maywether wasn't a puncher. Was Canelo old and reluctant to get hit? Reluctant to get hit yes. There's some fighters it's just pointless to step in the run with which is why Wlad avoided him for as long as he did but is now eager to jump in with Joshua.

**Primo Carnera** · 10-18-2016 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Batman

He is a paper champion and he is overrated, if he beats Klit then he has answered the questions asked of him.

I'm not saying he isn't the real deal at all, just that he hasn't been in a position to prove himself up until now.

I've not really paid much attention to Masters views on AJ but they don't seem too harsh if that is all that they are

You love reffing us 2 ! ��
He's not a paper Champion. If he's a paper champion, so is Wilder .
And he's not overrated either really.
He may be overpaid to date and as a bi-product of that , over hyped, but it's not his fault he's ko'd everyone he's fought.
If he beats Wlad does that change everything? Or does everyone say Wlad is finished or even Fury finished him?
No win really.

Fury didn't finish him same as Mayweather didn't finish Canelo. He was just too good for him.

You're right, Fury didn't finish Him, he hardly gave him a hiding. Wlad finished himself, too old and too reluctant to get hit.

Maywether wasn't a puncher. Was Canelo old and reluctant to get hit? Reluctant to get hit yes. There's some fighters it's just pointless to step in the run with which is why Wlad avoided him for as long as he did but is now eager to jump in with Joshua.

1. Canelo wasn't reluctant to get hit, he just couldn't find a way of hitting Floyd.
2. Wlad never avoided Fury. Fury hadn't done enough to warrant the fight. He became Mandatory and guess what? He got the fight. Hardly avoiding. Wlad has avoided getting hit for 10 years, look at the Povetkin fight.
3. How do we know Wlad is "eager to jump in with Joshua"? Nothing is finalised yet.
If Wlad gets to fight somebody else to win a title, he will do so, trust me.
No different to Joseph . If he gets the chance to fight Ruiz for a title, he'll fight him before he fights Joshua. Why? Easier route to a title.

**Dark Lord Al** · 10-18-2016 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

Originally Posted by Batman

He is a paper champion and he is overrated, if he beats Klit then he has answered the questions asked of him.

I'm not saying he isn't the real deal at all, just that he hasn't been in a position to prove himself up until now.

I've not really paid much attention to Masters views on AJ but they don't seem too harsh if that is all that they are

You love reffing us 2 ! ��
He's not a paper Champion. If he's a paper champion, so is Wilder .
And he's not overrated either really.
He may be overpaid to date and as a bi-product of that , over hyped, but it's not his fault he's ko'd everyone he's fought.
If he beats Wlad does that change everything? Or does everyone say Wlad is finished or even Fury finished him?
No win really.

Fury didn't finish him same as Mayweather didn't finish Canelo. He was just too good for him.

Canelo was unbeaten and has a rock chin , all of Wlad's losses where by KO. Fury didn't finish him because he is a light puncher and landed 7 punches per round for 12 rounds , Floyd didn't finish Canelo because Floyd is not a big hitter at the weight and Canelo has a rock chin.
No comparison what so ever and you know it. Let us not forget Wlad v fury ranks up with the worst HW title fight in history , it was not a total domination you seem to think it was and Wlad was almost 40 at the time Canelo was 23.
Canelo has become champion again and has taken shots from big hitters like James Kirkland , fury won the title and couldn't handle the fame and turned to drugs. Do not compare the two.