Quote Originally Posted by denilson200 View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
Are we still waiting for Denilson to tell us his list of great Black inventors ?
I am sure he will set us right .
The most important inventions have come from Africa take (Agriculture and Metallurgy) They were both developed, independently in West Africa. Humans spent 10's of thousands of years as hunter gatherers before somebody figured out that if you plant seeds in the ground, irrigate and take care of them, you can settle in one area and not have to wander about looking for food. Seems pretty obvious, but if nobody explained it to you, you’d have no idea how it works.

Iron industry, in both smelting and forging for tools and weapons, appeared in Sub-Saharan Africa by 1200 BCE. The increased use of iron and the spread of iron-working technology led to improved weaponry and enabled farmers to expand agricultural productivity and produce surplus crops, which together supported the growth of urban city-states into empires.

Agriculture and iron smelting were two of the most important things man ever discovered


They create a foundation for so many other things.

Now I could end what I say right here. But you goaded me and I've bitten.

More black inventions ?

The writing language ? Maths ? Physics ? Modern Cities ? Government ? Law ? Astronomy ? But you see this is very hard for you to stomach because if you are a told that black people were the first to study all these disciplines’ which laid the foundation for everything that was to come.

What would that say ?

Languages ? Right off the top of my head ? Chromatographic Edo Script, Nsibidi, are three African writing systems among a number, that pre-date the arrival of Europeans on the continent.

Since we are now on the subject, what your ancestors were doing when the nubians were building pyramids or those guys in Timbuktu were collecting one of the biggest library in the world, or those guys in present day Zimbabwe were trading with gold and silver and building castles from stone ?

  • You know that Africans were doing this all the while the English men bathed perhaps once or twice a year ?
  • You do know that the perfume industry was created to cover up the rampant diseases in the court of the Sun Kig of France back in the late 1600′s because the smell of rottening felsh, infections, and other of such since they did not havea single toilet in Versailles nor used baths ? Never mind that Africans had have their perfumes for centuries by then and washed almost daily were ever water was available.
  • You do know that in 1700′s absolute majority of the white Europeans could not read or write ? Majority of the white Europeans could not read or write in first half of the next century either.
  • You do know that there were massive famines in Europe in 1800′s ?
  • You do know that it was only in 1800′s that the white Europeans realised that it could be a good idea to wash hands before helping at child birth or surgical operations or at all ?
  • You do know that the White Man had no say so in most parts of Africa until 1800′s? The funniest thing is that they died in there and could not live there because they had no idea how to survive there. The crucial point came when they realised that perhaps they should learn something from the natives, like kinine, the only working medicine against malaria, which by the way, the Africans had used and known for centuries by then. And this happened in late 1800′s, not before.

So if you want to take in all of human history, that is the 100 thousand years modern man has been on the planet, not just the last 300 years where Northern white Europeans have got their act together and not just the bit we live in, then the Egyptians and Moors are by far the most inventive. They invented stuff like, oh, civilization. They have been on top for 40% of human history, more than twice as long as whites.

And here is the thing.

I DON'T DENY WHITES THEIR INVENTIONS

Sure white people have invented good things, but at the same 99.9999999% of white people have invented nothing. Also notice the double standard

When white people do good like inventions ?


They don't try to find others who have invented (Well maybe the odd token Asian)

When white people do something bad like slavery ?


They try to find other people who have done bad, hence the "African sold slaves" "Arabs sold them"

White people want to claim and take pride in the good things from their past – inventions made, battles won, rights fought for, etc – but then act as if the bad things have nothing to do with them – like slavery, genocide and rights not fought for. But you cannot have it both ways.


Likewise, if the good inventions are proof of the intelligence of whites, then slavery and genocide are proof of the great evil of whites. You cannot claim one without the other.


Or: If slavery and genocide came about through the workings of human nature under a particular set of circumstances – if anyone else would have done the same thing – then the same goes for the inventions too.


Given that China and India now produce at least twice as many engineers as America and the UK, no one will be making the white inventor argument in a hundred years. Instead they will be making the Chinese inventor argument.

Chinese and Indians kids will probably go around bragging how their gang is the smartest and most inventive.


Going back even further in the Palolithic era, apart from spear and flute in Germany and canoe in Australia. The major inventions were almost all from Africa including cooking and mining. From 10000 to 1000 BC, the list is dominated by India ( Indus Valley ), China , Egypt and the Middle-East( Mesopotamia ).

Barely any European name is there.

Since 1000 BC Greece and Rome starts to appear on the list. It is also important to note the nature of the inventions. Indian inventions included toilet, bathroom, drainage, plastic surgery, cataract surgery, early form of chess.
Chinese inventions included trebuchet, gunpowder, compass, suspension bridge, rotary fan, paper, printing press, gun.

Egyptian inventions ? (Where do I begin ?) Included metal block printing, fountain pen, astrolabic quadrant, hand cannon, explosive, sciences, maths, chemistry, government and an emphasis of the kind of tools used in architecture.

Black Moorish inventions included street lighting, talc, libaries, police force.

Middle Eastern inventions included various lamps, pharmacy and various astronomical, optical and medical instruments. Pinhole camera, magnifying lens and inhalation anaesthetic.

I could spend several thousand words referring you to the evidence on this subject, compiled by African and European scholars alike, which demonstrates both the racism and absurdity of your arguments.

But if you are truly interested in this material you would be better served to seek out the information yourself, seeing as how it will be far more adequately presented therein than I could do here.

You can begin by googling the books of Cheikh Anta Diop, Molefi Asante, and Walter Rodney, Ivan Van Sertima among others; and for you whose racism will most likely lead you to dismiss black scholars on these subjects, you can always examine the writings of Basil Davidson: one of the most respected Africa scholars in modern history, who is decidedly both white and British.

Ever heard of Jagadish Chandra Bose from India ? This is a guy who got zero attention for works on radio transmission. More names of non-whites would have appeared in the list of inventors.

NOW I KNOW YOU WILL NOT DISPUTE THIS. YOU WILL DISMISS IT


You choose which facts you wishes to believe in. It is part of how your racist delusion works. If you are going to overlook whatever facts of history that do not suit your argument, then it is pointless to say anything to you. You are locked in your own self-delusion and nothing I say will make any difference.

You are taught from a white Euro-centric point of view then you argue from the Eurocentric point as fact

“Where are the black scientists / inventors “ you will scream.

It is not about who invents, but who gets the ownership and thus claim it for oneself. It is about who gets the patent first. US and UK companies and business people have done it for ages. They see an idea, invention, something which is common somewhere else, go back home, patent it and claim the rights. After that they become the inventors and OWNERS of the said product, no matter how many centuries it has been used by other people in their culture.
Come on, is that it? You can do better than that! 😂