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    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    He was the most divisive president this country has ever had. He talked down to the police and he demoralize the police and he ratcheted up hatred towards the police in the general population. Several of his Democratic left-wing liberal Mayors across the country have also done a disservice to the police forces which are protecting the very ghettos that claim them to be racist
    Or he exposed the injustice and unaccountability of these killings.
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    Or he exposed the injustice and unaccountability of these killings.
    Mike Brown ATTACKED an Officer after Mike Brown committed a strong armed robbery Mike Brown also reached for the Officer's sidearm and a shot was discharged in the vehicle.....but the white man, the police, the "system" as a whole is to blame for Mike Brown being shot and killed? NO, MIKE BROWN is to blame for MIKE BROWN being shot and killed.


    If there truly are injustices and officers who need to be held accountable then pick some better martyrs than Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin....1. Trayvon was beating George Zimmerman's head into the sidewalk and Zimmerman shot Trayvon 2. Zimmerman isn't a law enforcement officer 3. Just because I don't think Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin doesn't mean I think George Zimmerman is the greatest nicest person to walk God's green earth....it means I don't think it's a homicide because I do believe Zimmerman was in fear for his life.

    Now we can go on down the line. Eric Garner....was that excessive force? He wasn't shot he HAD been arrested many a time before he knew how things worked but he resisted arrest....now that said I don't think the government should be bloodthirsty about tax revenue and yeah that is what that encounter was about, the Mayor said "Bust those guys selling loose cigarettes" and that was Eric Garner and it's a fucking shame that he died because the cops were called to put a stop to what he was doing.

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    The way that he threw law enforcement under the bus was sickening!

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    I have a hard believing any arguments from those who feel Obama did EVERYTHING WRONG, just like I'm aware of his many screwups. There's the proverbial rose-tinted glasses, worn by those who see nothing wrong in their man... and there must be another color of tint I'm not aware of, worn by those who are the exact opposite. Sorry, but arguments are all the more credible when not accompanied by hate. Otherwise, it all sounds like a deep growling sound.

    I berate one side, but I also do the other. Before the avalanche of Obama haters flows in, let me say I've defended Trump from exactly the same treatment, which he's already receiving and he hasn't even taken office yet. Give the man a chance, I say. I'm actually hoping for the best, because as I've said before the whole country will benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I have a hard believing any arguments from those who feel Obama did EVERYTHING WRONG, just like I'm aware of his many screwups. There's the proverbial rose-tinted glasses, worn by those who see nothing wrong in their man... and there must be another color of tint I'm not aware of, worn by those who are the exact opposite. Sorry, but arguments are all the more credible when not accompanied by hate. Otherwise, it all sounds like a deep growling sound.

    I berate one side, but I also do the other. Before the avalanche of Obama haters flows in, let me say I've defended Trump from exactly the same treatment, which he's already receiving and he hasn't even taken office yet. Give the man a chance, I say. I'm actually hoping for the best, because as I've said before the whole country will benefit.
    It depends what people choose to focus on, I guess!

    I can go on and on about what Obama did wrong, but I can do the same for Bush and Bill Clinton too!

    Overall I don't think he was THAT bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidgil View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I have a hard believing any arguments from those who feel Obama did EVERYTHING WRONG, just like I'm aware of his many screwups. There's the proverbial rose-tinted glasses, worn by those who see nothing wrong in their man... and there must be another color of tint I'm not aware of, worn by those who are the exact opposite. Sorry, but arguments are all the more credible when not accompanied by hate. Otherwise, it all sounds like a deep growling sound.

    I berate one side, but I also do the other. Before the avalanche of Obama haters flows in, let me say I've defended Trump from exactly the same treatment, which he's already receiving and he hasn't even taken office yet. Give the man a chance, I say. I'm actually hoping for the best, because as I've said before the whole country will benefit.
    It depends what people choose to focus on, I guess!

    I can go on and on about what Obama did wrong, but I can do the same for Bush and Bill Clinton too!

    Overall I don't think he was THAT bad!


    With that kind of mentality, I'd be more likely to accept arguments of what Obama did wrong, because they're based in objectivity. When you have someone who hated Obama since Day One, for whatever reason.... that's when I'm most skeptical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    With that kind of mentality, I'd be more likely to accept arguments of what Obama did wrong, because they're based in objectivity. When you have someone who hated Obama since Day One, for whatever reason.... that's when I'm most skeptical.
    A lot of the things he did that I didn't like, I could understand because obviously he is a politician and was doing/saying what he felt his supporters wanted. He didn't do anything that shocked me.

    Obama will be viewed with rose colored glasses by most because he was the first black president and he was charismatic and squeaky clean, which was enough to satisfy the majority of people. And Michelle was much the same way - very smart, eloquent and well spoken. No big scandals or embarrassments.

    But at the end of the day, Obamacare will go down as an epic failure and he didn't unite the country like he was supposed to, in fact all he did was fuel the flames. Far from a great president IMO, but not one of the worst like a lot of people say. Just my opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidgil View Post
    The way that he threw law enforcement under the bus was sickening!
    And it started IMMEDIATELY with "The police acted stupidly" when Henry Louis Gates got stopped because he was breaking into his own house and then we had the whole beer summit charade.


    Barack Obama NEVER ONCE called on the people for calm when he could have....."What can I do, I'm only the first Black President?"....he said nothing either because he wanted it to happen or because he felt like he could say nothing about it.





    Thank GOD we'll have some adults running the show again....petulant special snowflake children have almost SJW'd our way into World War 3 and they don't even fucking realize it yet!



    A Hillary Presidency with a No Fly Zone over Syria.....that was going to cause nuclear war....and yet there are people calling Trump xenophobic when he said one of the least xenophobic things in the debates "If we got along with Russia it wouldn't be bad"....the words of an insane person if the left has told me anything....yeah he's a mad man, a maaaaaaaaaad man, he wants us to get along with another country....the fucking gall!

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