Haye Bellew confirmed

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I'm not saying for a second it won't sell and help both guys bank accounts, but is it a viable fight? Simply no. It's a guy who's 220 or 230 and has been a legit HW with KO power for years, against a guy who was KO'ed by Adonis Stevenson, lost to Nathan Cleverly and drew with Chilemba in that time. I'll stream it if I'm around sure, but anyone willing to pay for this is a sucker, again not saying there aren't lots of them. May as well put Cleverly vs AJ on the same bill, there's another mouth watering domestic clash.

Your still not getting it Haye doesn't need a "Viable" fight...! He want's one. it's a win win platform back into primetime PPV and a shot at the Heavyweight title again on Sky PPV with Matchroom.

You think Eddie Hearns not gonna rip his fucking hand off and do a deal after he smashes Bellew to bits in 1-2 rounds?

Fuck me the smart money would be on the deal between and Hearn already put to bed days ago

Imagine Haye does fight as a mandatory for the Heavyweight title (which is 95% nailed on) Hearn could do a MASSIVE AJ v Haye fight at Wembley where everyones a winner $$£$£$£$£

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I'm not saying for a second it won't sell and help both guys bank accounts, but is it a viable fight? Simply no. It's a guy who's 220 or 230 and has been a legit HW with KO power for years, against a guy who was KO'ed by Adonis Stevenson, lost to Nathan Cleverly and drew with Chilemba in that time. I'll stream it if I'm around sure, but anyone willing to pay for this is a sucker, again not saying there aren't lots of them. May as well put Cleverly vs AJ on the same bill, there's another mouth watering domestic clash.

Your still not getting it Haye doesn't need a "Viable" fight...! He want's one. it's a win win platform back into primetime PPV and a shot at the Heavyweight title again on Sky PPV with Matchroom.

You think Eddie Hearns not gonna rip his fucking hand off and do a deal after he smashes Bellew to bits in 1-2 rounds?

Fuck me the smart money would be on the deal between and Hearn already put to bed days ago

Imagine Haye does fight as a mandatory for the Heavyweight title (which is 95% nailed on) Hearn could do a MASSIVE AJ v Haye fight at Wembley where everyones a winner $$£$£$£$£

Why do you think I'm missing that? I don't have as much faith as you seem to that Haye does want a real fight, but I understand if he's not doing anything else anyways this will only help him get it and demand more money, bravo for him, what a brilliant operator. My point was that it's due to people being stupid and easily conned, there is literally no reason anyone should pay for this, all I'm saying. It's as predictable a demolition as should ever be sanctioned on a high level.

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I'm not saying for a second it won't sell and help both guys bank accounts, but is it a viable fight? Simply no. It's a guy who's 220 or 230 and has been a legit HW with KO power for years, against a guy who was KO'ed by Adonis Stevenson, lost to Nathan Cleverly and drew with Chilemba in that time. I'll stream it if I'm around sure, but anyone willing to pay for this is a sucker, again not saying there aren't lots of them. May as well put Cleverly vs AJ on the same bill, there's another mouth watering domestic clash.

Your still not getting it Haye doesn't need a "Viable" fight...! He want's one. it's a win win platform back into primetime PPV and a shot at the Heavyweight title again on Sky PPV with Matchroom.

You think Eddie Hearns not gonna rip his fucking hand off and do a deal after he smashes Bellew to bits in 1-2 rounds?

Fuck me the smart money would be on the deal between and Hearn already put to bed days ago

Imagine Haye does fight as a mandatory for the Heavyweight title (which is 95% nailed on) Hearn could do a MASSIVE AJ v Haye fight at Wembley where everyones a winner $$£$£$£$£

Why do you think I'm missing that? I don't have as much faith as you seem to that Haye does want a real fight, but I understand if he's not doing anything else anyways this will only help him get it and demand more money, bravo for him, what a brilliant operator. My point was that it's due to people being stupid and easily conned, there is literally no reason anyone should pay for this, all I'm saying. It's as predictable a demolition as should ever be sanctioned on a high level.

My point exactly mate!!

Haye doesn't want a "Real Fight" and hasn't in years which is why he bottled it against Klitschko and refused to engage and didn't want it with Fury and now the same with Briggs.

He's a 2 weight World Champ and 36 years old now is he? (i don't think belts are really his driving force anymore)..... the guys Skint and as i understand it in the middle of a divorce case with his ex wife Natasha

He just want's to make huge money by taking as little risk as possible - i know it stinks but if a promoter (Hearn) and a massive Satellite tv platform on PPV (Sky) are willing to put this show on to the masses can we blame him.
I know it's not purist stuff or the way it should be but it just goes full circle to my point.
Business £$£$£ first - Sport second.
I know i'll watch it live and hand on heart would pay the full PPV price if i didn't get HD ppv for free anyway and i would bet my house 99% of people who think this is a joke fight will do too come fight week

Bellews as much to Blame here anyway.... he's not even a convincing Cruiserweight for me and i think he'd get battered if he tries to unify against Dennis Lebedev and he knows it, which is why i think he's pushed so hard for Haye so he can Cash in before he's history as a Crusierweight

Again..... Money talks

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@Vendettos @p4pking

Not for a second trying to come across as a know all etc but i used to get frustrated with certain fighters taking Bullshit fights that "Belt Wise" made no sense at all.

Believe me i've been watching fights live since 1988-89 when i was 12-13 years old and it was probably about 10 odd years ago when i was moaning about a similar situation (can't remember the fight or fighter if im honest) but a wise man basically said to me something similar to the point im trying to get across here.... like it or not Boxing is a business first and a sport second.
Always has been and probably always will be and UFC will follow suit sooner or later and the only reason they make regular "Best v Best fights" is simply because it isn't fractioned off yet and they all fight under one Ownership/Ruling so it's easy to make the big fights.
Boxing with all it's Belts/Governing Bodies is a logistical nightmare and money has the final say 99% of the time unfortunately.
And for the record the "Wise Man" who opened my eyes was the very man who runs this site @Saddo and another legend of this site, who some of you guys might not be familiar with - Curtis McCormick
@Vendettos it's guys like you who will keep this site going and in my opinion are the new blood, massive passion for the square circle and a nice attitude to go with it.

Without realising i googled "Kuba Moczyk" the other day after hearing of yet another death in the sport and ended up seeing your youtube videos.

Keep it up son but FFS sort your bobble hat out

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You never have to worry about coming across as a know all. You aren't saying anything that isn't obvious, perhaps you are giving Haye credit for it and many wont, that's all. This fight will make sense for him because people are stupid, obviously that's all I should have typed so you wouldn't read so much into it.

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[MENTION=21939]@Vendettos it's guys like you who will keep this site going and in my opinion are the new blood, massive passion for the square circle and a nice attitude to go with it.

Without realising i googled "Kuba Moczyk" the other day after hearing of yet another death in the sport and ended up seeing your youtube videos.

Keep it up son but FFS sort your bobble hat out

@smashup Haha.. appreciated mate! Glad you seen the videos, I only started them for saddo posts but I'm probably going to do them daily.

And my hat is comfy as hell

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[MENTION=21939]@Vendettos it's guys like you who will keep this site going and in my opinion are the new blood, massive passion for the square circle and a nice attitude to go with it.

Without realising i googled "Kuba Moczyk" the other day after hearing of yet another death in the sport and ended up seeing your youtube videos.

Keep it up son but FFS sort your bobble hat out

@smashup Haha.. appreciated mate! Glad you seen the videos, I only started them for saddo posts but I'm probably going to do them daily.

And my hat is comfy as hell

So are you basically saying that the "Vendettos Hat" is your "Burt Sugar Cigar" / "Don King Hair"
Being half Scottish myself i'd go for the Kilt personally!
Didn't do Frank Maloney any harm wearing a skirt for 20 years

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So are you basically saying that the "Vendettos Hat" is your "Burt Sugar Cigar" / "Don King Hair"
Being half Scottish myself i'd go for the Kilt personally!
Didn't do Frank Maloney any harm wearing a skirt for 20 years

@smashup Haha yea, you've just given me my gimmick!!

Would have used the kilt but Scotland cold, my dick would shrivel up to 7 inches.



It's a money fight @Master .. He had options .. Hatton said they tried to get Haye vs Browne rather than briggs but Haye wants none of that.

[Master]

Haye is a celebrity boxer and is a waste of time and effort.

Is there any chance both these boxers knock themselves out?

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So are you basically saying that the "Vendettos Hat" is your "Burt Sugar Cigar" / "Don King Hair"
Being half Scottish myself i'd go for the Kilt personally!
Didn't do Frank Maloney any harm wearing a skirt for 20 years

@smashup Haha yea, you've just given me my gimmick!!

Would have used the kilt but Scotland cold, my dick would shrivel up to 7 inches.



It's a money fight @Master .. He had options .. Hatton said they tried to get Haye vs Browne rather than briggs but Haye wants none of that.

@Vendettos AKA "The Bagpipe"

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Smash is right. Haye is the smart one here and though he's not fooling us lot in terms of boxing achievements he's milking the uninformed casual fans and putting himself right up there for a shot at the title and a massive bank balance for fuck all risk to him.

And yes I'll probably pay to watch the thing ffs


Bellow will be the party pooper though and blown Haye away inside 2 rounds. You heard it here first.

[Master]

Haye is better than this and should make a serious go at winning the title fighting boxers that will get him a title shot, not make these gimmick fights.

Haye is preparing himself to get smashed by AJ and Wilder because Bellew is no preparation for those fighters.

Ugly joke and the worst thing is we have to hear from both of them until March 2017! Sky will plug this to death.

I hate boxing of this kind, total mis match like Canelo v Khan, GGG v Brook and now this.

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Haye is better than this and should make a serious go at winning the title fighting boxers that will get him a title shot, not make these gimmick fights.

Haye is preparing himself to get smashed by AJ and Wilder because Bellew is no preparation for those fighters.

Ugly joke and the worst thing is we have to hear from both of them until March 2017! Sky will plug this to death.

I hate boxing of this kind, total mis match like Canelo v Khan, GGG v Brook and now this.

He doesn't have to though does he..! He's WBA mandatory and he's done fuck all to be in that position - this is just an easy and BIG payday that 99% guarantees Hearn will promote his Heavyweight title shot after he destroys Bellew on PPV.

Hearn/Haye are in bed together

[Master]

I understand that but how is this preparing Haye to beat AJ or any of the big super heavyweights.

Haye could beat AJ if he made the effort.

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I understand that but how is this preparing Haye to beat AJ or any of the big super heavyweights.

Haye could beat AJ if he made the effort.

Once Haye smashes Bellew and is the talk of UK Boxing while it lasts he''ll milk the fuck out of it TV appearance wise then once/if he still gets that WBA or is it WBO Mandatory shot i think he'd knuckle down and have one more massive effort.... infact i think he'll do that for this Bellew fight because he knows what it leads too and it's his last roll of the dice.

Please don't ask me how the fuck Haye is Ranked 3, 4 and 7 by the IBF, WBO and WBA respectively after fighting 2 absolute nobodys ranked 46 and 208 in the World since fighting Chisora 4 and a half years ago?

The Heavyweight World rankings are all over the fucking place, it's like the sanctioning bodies met up one night, got on the piss and pulled the fucking names out of a hat (barring the obvious belt holders)

I mean seriously can anyone tell me exactly how Haye has managed to be so highly ranked please?

http://www.fightnews.com/rankings-2