Re-assessing Round scoring

[TitoFan]

I'm not disputing the decision of the Ward/Kov whatsoever.

However, could argue that Ward won more rounds than Kovalev (7-5). Yet that same individual can argue that Kovalev's winning rounds were more dominant than Ward's winning rounds.

Should this be taken into consideration in scoring?

No. A big round still 10-9 should not Carey more weight than a tight 10-9 round.

That's the way it is now, of course. But we're looking for ways to improve scoring.

Say, for instance, that X fights Y and X dominates the first 6 rounds pounding Y from pillar to post, but no knockdowns. You know most of those will be scored 10-9. Then Y gets on his bicycle and begins purposely trying to eke out rounds, pitty-patting his way to close rounds that he wins. So in the end it's six 10-9 rounds each. Given human error, two of the three inept or corrupt judges could give one of X's rounds to Y. Voila....... you have a decision for Y.

[Master]

1/2 point rounds? instead 10-9

[TitoFan]

Yeah. Maybe THAT'S our problem. Boxing oversimplifies everything so that a dominant round where the opponent does everything but knock the other guy down........... gets the same reward as a guy who barely ekes out a round. How antiquated and crappy is that?? Heaven knows judges don't need any help screwing up decisions. It's a daily occurrence in our sport. Why give them a system designed to help them f*ck up. Train judges better, then give them the latitude to score rounds 10-8 or 10-7 as they see fit. What do we have to lose? It can always be changed back if it doesn't work.

[brocktonblockbust]

I'm not disputing the decision of the Ward/Kov whatsoever.

However, could argue that Ward won more rounds than Kovalev (7-5). Yet that same individual can argue that Kovalev's winning rounds were more dominant than Ward's winning rounds.

Should this be taken into consideration in scoring?

No. A big round still 10-9 should not Carey more weight than a tight 10-9 round.

That's the way it is now, of course. But we're looking for ways to improve scoring.

Say, for instance, that X fights Y and X dominates the first 6 rounds pounding Y from pillar to post, but no knockdowns. You know most of those will be scored 10-9. Then Y gets on his bicycle and begins purposely trying to eke out rounds, pitty-patting his way to close rounds that he wins. So in the end it's six 10-9 rounds each. Given human error, two of the three inept or corrupt judges could give one of X's rounds to Y. Voila....... you have a decision for Y.

A bomber clubs his ballerina opponent 6 rounds and leads 60-54. Then the tide shifts and the ballerina/pansy skips and frolicks about for the next 6 rounds flicking a weak but scoring jab and AVOIDS ALL PUNCHES. I have no problem with the judges giving it to the ballerina.

[TitoFan]

I'm not disputing the decision of the Ward/Kov whatsoever.

However, could argue that Ward won more rounds than Kovalev (7-5). Yet that same individual can argue that Kovalev's winning rounds were more dominant than Ward's winning rounds.

Should this be taken into consideration in scoring?

No. A big round still 10-9 should not Carey more weight than a tight 10-9 round.

That's the way it is now, of course. But we're looking for ways to improve scoring.

Say, for instance, that X fights Y and X dominates the first 6 rounds pounding Y from pillar to post, but no knockdowns. You know most of those will be scored 10-9. Then Y gets on his bicycle and begins purposely trying to eke out rounds, pitty-patting his way to close rounds that he wins. So in the end it's six 10-9 rounds each. Given human error, two of the three inept or corrupt judges could give one of X's rounds to Y. Voila....... you have a decision for Y.

A bomber clubs his ballerina opponent 6 rounds and leads 60-54. Then the tide shifts and the ballerina/pansy skips and frolicks about for the next 6 rounds flicking a weak but scoring jab and AVOIDS ALL PUNCHES. I have no problem with the judges giving it to the ballerina.

"Skips and frolics"


Let's then give the tiara to the ballerina, but the belts to the bomber.

[brocktonblockbust]

I'm not disputing the decision of the Ward/Kov whatsoever.

However, could argue that Ward won more rounds than Kovalev (7-5). Yet that same individual can argue that Kovalev's winning rounds were more dominant than Ward's winning rounds.

Should this be taken into consideration in scoring?

No. A big round still 10-9 should not Carey more weight than a tight 10-9 round.

That's the way it is now, of course. But we're looking for ways to improve scoring.

Say, for instance, that X fights Y and X dominates the first 6 rounds pounding Y from pillar to post, but no knockdowns. You know most of those will be scored 10-9. Then Y gets on his bicycle and begins purposely trying to eke out rounds, pitty-patting his way to close rounds that he wins. So in the end it's six 10-9 rounds each. Given human error, two of the three inept or corrupt judges could give one of X's rounds to Y. Voila....... you have a decision for Y.

A bomber clubs his ballerina opponent 6 rounds and leads 60-54. Then the tide shifts and the ballerina/pansy skips and frolicks about for the next 6 rounds flicking a weak but scoring jab and AVOIDS ALL PUNCHES. I have no problem with the judges giving it to the ballerina.

"Skips and frolics"


Let's then give the tiara to the ballerina, but the belts to the bomber.

OK I got a good idea. "entertainment value" should be added to the scorecards--- judges must add ONE POINT to the fighter who brought "more entertainment" to the crowd ...... It could Make or break a fight.