Can Joshua become greater than Lennox?

[Primo Carnera]

He'll never be greater because he doesn't have the same quality of opposition to prove it even if he is. He's several fights into world title level (2010s era world title level) and next up he's fighting a schoolteacher.

AJ is 17 fights into his career....when Lennox Lewis was 20 fight into HIS career he fought the ALL-TIME GREAT then 10-5-0 Mike Dixon


Go fuck yourself

Why the hostility against Kirkland?

Lewis beat Mason very early in his career that trumps AJ.

I'd give Whyte and Brezeale a healthy chance against Mason.

[Master]

He'll never be greater because he doesn't have the same quality of opposition to prove it even if he is. He's several fights into world title level (2010s era world title level) and next up he's fighting a schoolteacher.

AJ is 17 fights into his career....when Lennox Lewis was 20 fight into HIS career he fought the ALL-TIME GREAT then 10-5-0 Mike Dixon


Go fuck yourself

Why the hostility against Kirkland?

Lewis beat Mason very early in his career that trumps AJ.

I'd give Whyte and Brezeale a healthy chance against Mason.

Then I give up on you, I really do. Wash my hands of you now. It is over. Bye.

[El Kabong]

Then I give up on you, I really do. Wash my hands of you now. It is over. Bye.

The ONLY people I've heard of on Mason's entire record are: Lennox, Biggs, Bigfoot Martin, Quick Tillis, Donnie Long, David Jaco, Alfonso Ratliff, and Sammy Scaff.....of those fighters only Lennox and Tillis had what I would call successful professional careers and this was in an era where there WERE big fights to be had but apparently Mason didn't want any of those (gee I wonder why ). The rest of those opponents I heard of were just that OPPONENTS, they were guys people fought to get rounds in or get experience, they weren't title holders, title contenders, or even acid tests, they were certified Tomato Cans.


I'll tell you this right now, 'Bonecrusher' Smith would have blasted Mason out of the water, 'Razor' Rudduck would have smashed him, Morrison would have schooled him, Ray Mercer, Old Foreman, Oliver McCall, Bruce Seldon, Larry Donald, fucking Pierre Coetzer would have beaten him IMO!


Gary Mason (God rest his soul) never fought anyone with a pulse until Lennox came along. Tillis at the time they fought already had 14 losses on his record and just got done getting stopped by Holyfield.

[Master]

Then I give up on you, I really do. Wash my hands of you now. It is over. Bye.

The ONLY people I've heard of on Mason's entire record are: Lennox, Biggs, Bigfoot Martin, Quick Tillis, Donnie Long, David Jaco, Alfonso Ratliff, and Sammy Scaff.....of those fighters only Lennox and Tillis had what I would call successful professional careers and this was in an era where there WERE big fights to be had but apparently Mason didn't want any of those (gee I wonder why ). The rest of those opponents I heard of were just that OPPONENTS, they were guys people fought to get rounds in or get experience, they weren't title holders, title contenders, or even acid tests, they were certified Tomato Cans.


I'll tell you this right now, 'Bonecrusher' Smith would have blasted Mason out of the water, 'Razor' Rudduck would have smashed him, Morrison would have schooled him, Ray Mercer, Old Foreman, Oliver McCall, Bruce Seldon, Larry Donald, fucking Pierre Coetzer would have beaten him IMO!


Gary Mason (God rest his soul) never fought anyone with a pulse until Lennox came along. Tillis at the time they fought already had 14 losses on his record and just got done getting stopped by Holyfield.

I was teasing Primo. I know Mason was not that good.

BTW all those fighters would give AJ a good fight much better than anyone he has fought until now.

[El Kabong]

I was teasing Primo. I know Mason was not that good.

BTW all those fighters would give AJ a good fight much better than anyone he has fought until now.

Sure you were


Yeah in their primes they were good fighters....not perfect, but good. They were just as inconsistent as the guys floating around now who can't grab hold of the belts. More exciting to watch maybe (probably because they were more apt to fight each other), but also with that excitement they were more apt to lose when they shouldn't have....like Mercer to old Holmes or Morrison to Hipp or Ruddock to Jaco and so on

[Master]

I did not rate Mason at all but Lennox taking him on at the stage he was and the "record" Gary had built was a big test and jump in class for Lennox.