Julio Ceasar Chavez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez

[Dark Lord Al]

JCC in his pomp at SFW takes a superhuman to beat him.

[VG_Addict]

I think JCC would be all wrong for JMM stylistically.

[mikeeod]

I think JCC would be all wrong for JMM stylistically.

Do you? I tend to think opposite, that the more aggressive Chavez would play right into JMM's counterpunching style. I go back and forth, honestly. A couple of days ago I thought Chavez would just overwhelm Marquez enroute to a decision. Today I just can't help but feel that the JMM who took a prime Pac Man's best shots would handle JCC's power and relentless pressure. I see Chavez walking into big counters, but having the chin and durability to hear the final bell. Do we all agree it would be a classic/great fight?!?!?

[Master]

I think JCC would be all wrong for JMM stylistically.

Do you? I tend to think opposite, that the more aggressive Chavez would play right into JMM's counterpunching style. I go back and forth, honestly. A couple of days ago I thought Chavez would just overwhelm Marquez enroute to a decision. Today I just can't help but feel that the JMM who took a prime Pac Man's best shots would handle JCC's power and relentless pressure. I see Chavez walking into big counters, but having the chin and durability to hear the final bell. Do we all agree it would be a classic/great fight?!?!?

Yes it would be a good fight but as Spicoli said JCC was exceptional fighter at super featherweight too. Probably hungrier and fresher at that weight.

[Dark Lord Al]

I think JCC would be all wrong for JMM stylistically.

Do you? I tend to think opposite, that the more aggressive Chavez would play right into JMM's counterpunching style. I go back and forth, honestly. A couple of days ago I thought Chavez would just overwhelm Marquez enroute to a decision. Today I just can't help but feel that the JMM who took a prime Pac Man's best shots would handle JCC's power and relentless pressure. I see Chavez walking into big counters, but having the chin and durability to hear the final bell. Do we all agree it would be a classic/great fight?!?!?

Yes it would be a good fight but as Spicoli said JCC was exceptional fighter at super featherweight too. Probably hungrier and fresher at that weight.

A man who loses to Freddie Norwood at FW is eaten alive by JCC at SFW.

[mikeeod]

I think JCC would be all wrong for JMM stylistically.

Do you? I tend to think opposite, that the more aggressive Chavez would play right into JMM's counterpunching style. I go back and forth, honestly. A couple of days ago I thought Chavez would just overwhelm Marquez enroute to a decision. Today I just can't help but feel that the JMM who took a prime Pac Man's best shots would handle JCC's power and relentless pressure. I see Chavez walking into big counters, but having the chin and durability to hear the final bell. Do we all agree it would be a classic/great fight?!?!?

Yes it would be a good fight but as Spicoli said JCC was exceptional fighter at super featherweight too. Probably hungrier and fresher at that weight.

A man who loses to Freddie Norwood at FW is eaten alive by JCC at SFW.

I can see your point and why you feel that way, but aren't we really talking about two different styles? Also, the JMM who lost to Norwood wasn't in his prime yet, he was green and still figuring things out. I'm talking about pitting these two against each other on their best nights, which in my mind is the Chavez who emasculated Edwin Rosario and the JMM who fought Pac the second and third time (he lost two razor thin decisions that were disputed by many). Speed bothered both of these fighters the most, evidenced by Chavez's fights vs. Taylor, Whitaker, and Oscar, and JMM's fights with Norwood, Pac, and Floyd. Neither of these fighters outspeeds the other, and I don't see either stopping the other (Chavez was a bull and JMM wasn't stopped by a prime Manny or Floyd), so I see a war with each trying to exert their will on the other. I can see a case for either, but I honestly don't see either guy being eaten alive by the other.

[Spicoli]

I'm still not convinced Marquez really lost to Norwood in the first place. That fight was an absolute horror show to be honest and Norwood was a tremendous talent, as well as one of the dirtiest fighters in recent memory.

[J_Undisputed]

I think JCC would be all wrong for JMM stylistically.

Do you? I tend to think opposite, that the more aggressive Chavez would play right into JMM's counterpunching style. I go back and forth, honestly. A couple of days ago I thought Chavez would just overwhelm Marquez enroute to a decision. Today I just can't help but feel that the JMM who took a prime Pac Man's best shots would handle JCC's power and relentless pressure. I see Chavez walking into big counters, but having the chin and durability to hear the final bell. Do we all agree it would be a classic/great fight?!?!?

Yes it would be a good fight but as Spicoli said JCC was exceptional fighter at super featherweight too. Probably hungrier and fresher at that weight.

A man who loses to Freddie Norwood at FW is eaten alive by JCC at SFW.

I can see your point and why you feel that way, but aren't we really talking about two different styles? Also, the JMM who lost to Norwood wasn't in his prime yet, he was green and still figuring things out. I'm talking about pitting these two against each other on their best nights, which in my mind is the Chavez who emasculated Edwin Rosario and the JMM who fought Pac the second and third time (he lost two razor thin decisions that were disputed by many). Speed bothered both of these fighters the most, evidenced by Chavez's fights vs. Taylor, Whitaker, and Oscar, and JMM's fights with Norwood, Pac, and Floyd. Neither of these fighters outspeeds the other, and I don't see either stopping the other (Chavez was a bull and JMM wasn't stopped by a prime Manny or Floyd), so I see a war with each trying to exert their will on the other. I can see a case for either, but I honestly don't see either guy being eaten alive by the other.

And marquez got jobbed. They scored trips for norwood, etc. My money would be on marquez when Nacho and he gear up for an important fight. Gotta love a fighter that just gets better after you knock him on his a$$ instead of losing steam like most fighters.