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    Kirkland is always dangerous early.Have to favor Cotto, despite him being the much smaller man.He's still a class or two above Kirkland in talent.
    Dangerous how?
    He's a big puncher and extremely aggressive. If Ricardo Torres can hurt you early then so can Kirkland.Obviously, Cotto is a heavy favorite and I'd pick him to stop Kirkland, but James is dangerous early.Ermosole Albert was a good fighter with reportedly 500 amateur fights and Kirkland ran over him in a round.Brian Vera went the distance and beat a huge Chavez Jr at middle, but was tortured and stopped by Kirkland. He is powerful and dangerous early.
    Eromosele was just good enough to not know his name right? Kirkland sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
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    Kirkland is always dangerous early.Have to favor Cotto, despite him being the much smaller man.He's still a class or two above Kirkland in talent.
    Dangerous how?
    He's a big puncher and extremely aggressive. If Ricardo Torres can hurt you early then so can Kirkland.Obviously, Cotto is a heavy favorite and I'd pick him to stop Kirkland, but James is dangerous early.Ermosole Albert was a good fighter with reportedly 500 amateur fights and Kirkland ran over him in a round.Brian Vera went the distance and beat a huge Chavez Jr at middle, but was tortured and stopped by Kirkland. He is powerful and dangerous early.
    Eromosele was just good enough to not know his name right? Kirkland sucks.
    You're an idiot aren't you?

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    Default Re: cotto v kirland

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    Kirkland is always dangerous early.Have to favor Cotto, despite him being the much smaller man.He's still a class or two above Kirkland in talent.
    Dangerous how?
    He's a big puncher and extremely aggressive. If Ricardo Torres can hurt you early then so can Kirkland.Obviously, Cotto is a heavy favorite and I'd pick him to stop Kirkland, but James is dangerous early.Ermosole Albert was a good fighter with reportedly 500 amateur fights and Kirkland ran over him in a round.Brian Vera went the distance and beat a huge Chavez Jr at middle, but was tortured and stopped by Kirkland. He is powerful and dangerous early.
    Eromosele was just good enough to not know his name right? Kirkland sucks.
    You're an idiot aren't you?
    I'm not the one that's wrong but I'll keep it mature even though you picked the low route. Tell me how Kirkland is good. Tell me about all his title fight victories and when they happened. I'll wait.

    Better yet let's not waste anyones time. 16 years a pro in an era with so many titles he has never won one. Tell me how is dangerous. He has never beaten a champion so how is he dangerous to a champion caliber fighter?

    James Kirkland is a guy brought in to look the part and lose.

    I hope you bring a reply with more substance than your last. Hell, more than when you erroneously suggested Kirkland is dangerous too.
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    Default Re: cotto v kirland

    TBH, I didn't read where Hulk claimed Kirkland is "good"..... only "dangerous early." Nothing wrong with that.

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    TBH, I didn't read where Hulk claimed Kirkland is "good"..... only "dangerous early." Nothing wrong with that.
    Again, dangerous how? We are talking about a championship level opponent. He has never beat one so how is he dangerous to one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
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    TBH, I didn't read where Hulk claimed Kirkland is "good"..... only "dangerous early." Nothing wrong with that.
    Again, dangerous how? We are talking about a championship level opponent. He has never beat one so how is he dangerous to one?

    By virtue of being a big puncher. Puncher's chance and all that. He crashed and burned against Canelo, but he threw as well as received during those first rounds. Being dangerous isn't the same as being good. It's like in baseball. You can be a lousy hitter with homerun power. You might strike out 7 times out of 10, but on one of those 10 you might connect and hit a 500-foot homer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    TBH, I didn't read where Hulk claimed Kirkland is "good"..... only "dangerous early." Nothing wrong with that.
    Again, dangerous how? We are talking about a championship level opponent. He has never beat one so how is he dangerous to one?

    By virtue of being a big puncher. Puncher's chance and all that. He crashed and burned against Canelo, but he threw as well as received during those first rounds. Being dangerous isn't the same as being good. It's like in baseball. You can be a lousy hitter with homerun power. You might strike out 7 times out of 10, but on one of those 10 you might connect and hit a 500-foot homer.
    Except he has never landed that one at championship level. 16 years and he has never. And this will be his 2nd fight in 4 years, that won't be improving his already limited skills.

    You and I both know Kirkland is brought in to look the part and lose.

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    Here's a nice challenge for all. Since I'm an idiot and I regularly call out shitty mismatches. Like all the time. Someone tell me just one that didn't go exactly according to the plot. It shouldn't be hard to think of one if II'm an idiot right? Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Here's a nice challenge for all. Since I'm an idiot and I regularly call out shitty mismatches. Like all the time. Someone tell me just one that didn't go exactly according to the plot. It shouldn't be hard to think of one if II'm an idiot right? Good luck
    I don't think it's so much what u say but more how u day it but I have that problem myself at times

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    When Canelo fought Kirkland, it was a short notice for the Dingo Warrior, this time its treacherous waters for the smaller and much older Cotto. Interesting fight in my humble opinion. I hope Cotto wins big and retire. Cotto is just a welterweight imo.
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