cotto v kirland

[Spicoli]

I just want to know how Cotto is still ranked 4th by Ring in a stacked 154? I mean I know how but how . Kirkland was a full frontal force but burned out quick. Ron had it and frankly he's a guy now brought in to make a guy look devastating, almost a Mayorga role but Mayorga was a better fighter and actually punch resistance. Not knocking him for riding a rep but he peaked at Angulo and I can't get beyond listening to him try to form sentences after Canelo punched him numb. Knocks on Cotto really, either piss or get off the pot and again he looks to reset in a showcase. Anyone in their right mind think he runs with the Charlo we saw Saturday It's just a payday to guarantee Cotto sees at least one more for himself.

[TitoFan]

I just want to know how Cotto is still ranked 4th by Ring in a stacked 154? I mean I know how but how . Kirkland was a full frontal force but burned out quick. Ron had it and frankly he's a guy now brought in to make a guy look devastating, almost a Mayorga role but Mayorga was a better fighter and actually punch resistance. Not knocking him for riding a rep but he peaked at Angulo and I can't get beyond listening to him try to form sentences after Canelo punched him numb. Knocks on Cotto really, either piss or get off the pot and again he looks to reset in a showcase. Anyone in their right mind think he runs with the Charlo we saw Saturday It's just a payday to guarantee Cotto sees at least one more for himself.

For the record, I'm not defending Kirkland's choice as opponent. But how is this any different from any other fighter with a storied career wanting to milk what's left of it, and get out with maximum profit? The double standard with this guy continues, and probably will as he rides off into the sunset. I will say this: He may be fighting damaged goods now. But he got off to a fast start from the beginning of his career, and fought some very tough opposition throughout. I won't get into calling out other elite fighters active now.... but we all know how different careers stack up.

[El Kabong]

Cotto will win this one easy unless he just allows Kirkland to hit him.....(ahem @TitoFan )

Kirkland is done for, he's 32 he's a power punching pressure fighter, his days as anything other than "an opponent" are done, over

[holmcall]

Wolfe has just joined him for this fight. Hmmm

[walrus]

Wolfe has just joined him for this fight. Hmmm

Wolfe actually scares me more than Kirkland. He does seem more dedicated when he has her but it's not going to make enough of a difference in this fight

[El Kabong]

Wolfe has just joined him for this fight. Hmmm

Won't matter unless this has just become a sanctioned handicap match Wolfe and Kirkland vs Cotto

[Hulk]

Wolfe has just joined him for this fight. Hmmm

Won't matter unless this has just become a sanctioned handicap match Wolfe and Kirkland vs Cotto

Lyle, could you beat Wolfe in a boxing match?

[El Kabong]

Wolfe has just joined him for this fight. Hmmm

Won't matter unless this has just become a sanctioned handicap match Wolfe and Kirkland vs Cotto

Lyle, could you beat Wolfe in a boxing match?

Nice loaded question there @Hulk


Well she'd no doubt have the experience factor, but the age, height, reach, weight, advantages all go to me also I'm a dude so unless low blows count that's another advantage for me. Ann Wolfe is one scary broad and I don't hit women at all much less in the face AND with a closed fist, however if it was a sanctioned boxing match then yeah I'd feel comfortable betting on myself.


I'm not saying that to big up myself or anything I mean if I was to be fighting a 45 years old 165 pound MAN who was a boxer I'd still feel comfortable betting on myself to win. Now if I was an average woman, no way in hell would I have ever set foot in the ring with Ann Wolfe, not no way not no how.


And yes I do not doubt that Ann Wolfe has in her lifetime fought guys as big or bigger than me....she also got knocked out by Valerie "Who's been eatin all" Mahfood (much better nickname than 'Big Bad Wolfe')

[Spicoli]

I just want to know how Cotto is still ranked 4th by Ring in a stacked 154? I mean I know how but how . Kirkland was a full frontal force but burned out quick. Ron had it and frankly he's a guy now brought in to make a guy look devastating, almost a Mayorga role but Mayorga was a better fighter and actually punch resistance. Not knocking him for riding a rep but he peaked at Angulo and I can't get beyond listening to him try to form sentences after Canelo punched him numb. Knocks on Cotto really, either piss or get off the pot and again he looks to reset in a showcase. Anyone in their right mind think he runs with the Charlo we saw Saturday It's just a payday to guarantee Cotto sees at least one more for himself.

For the record, I'm not defending Kirkland's choice as opponent. But how is this any different from any other fighter with a storied career wanting to milk what's left of it, and get out with maximum profit? The double standard with this guy continues, and probably will as he rides off into the sunset. I will say this: He may be fighting damaged goods now. But he got off to a fast start from the beginning of his career, and fought some very tough opposition throughout. I won't get into calling out other elite fighters active now.... but we all know how different careers stack up.

I think the unwillingness to walk the walk and catch weights seriously put me off Cotto. Always liked him as a fighter but for a guy ranked #2 in the world more on history now rather than ability who cannot even fight a top 15 boxer? Just cannot appreciate that.

[El Kabong]

You guys hear yourselves? Surprised how easy -trained experienced professionals- are dismissed Hey Hopkins is near 52 and I'm sure he could make 165 again..have a go! So many fighters fought into early 40's. Wolfe lost by knockout early in career, true story. But hey she beat her not once but twice in rematches. And she didn't need her big brother or sister to do it for her.

Well the conversation was typed sooooo ummm, no we didn't "hear" ourselves. Dude asked a question, I attempted to answer to the best of my abilities. Don't be offended at my answer to a hypothetical question.

For the record, I'm not defending Kirkland's choice as opponent. But how is this any different from any other fighter with a storied career wanting to milk what's left of it, and get out with maximum profit? The double standard with this guy continues, and probably will as he rides off into the sunset. I will say this: He may be fighting damaged goods now. But he got off to a fast start from the beginning of his career, and fought some very tough opposition throughout. I won't get into calling out other elite fighters active now.... but we all know how different careers stack up.

I think the unwillingness to walk the walk and catch weights seriously put me off Cotto. Always liked him as a fighter but for a guy ranked #2 in the world more on history now rather than ability who cannot even fight a top 15 boxer? Just cannot appreciate that.[/QUOTE]

It's not a great fight for Cotto that we can agree on. Cotto should be making the biggest fights he can and this ain't it.

[TitoFan]

You guys hear yourselves? Surprised how easy -trained experienced professionals- are dismissed Hey Hopkins is near 52 and I'm sure he could make 165 again..have a go! So many fighters fought into early 40's. Wolfe lost by knockout early in career, true story. But hey she beat her not once but twice in rematches. And she didn't need her big brother or sister to do it for her.

Well the conversation was typed sooooo ummm, no we didn't "hear" ourselves. Dude asked a question, I attempted to answer to the best of my abilities. Don't be offended at my answer to a hypothetical question.

For the record, I'm not defending Kirkland's choice as opponent. But how is this any different from any other fighter with a storied career wanting to milk what's left of it, and get out with maximum profit? The double standard with this guy continues, and probably will as he rides off into the sunset. I will say this: He may be fighting damaged goods now. But he got off to a fast start from the beginning of his career, and fought some very tough opposition throughout. I won't get into calling out other elite fighters active now.... but we all know how different careers stack up.

I think the unwillingness to walk the walk and catch weights seriously put me off Cotto. Always liked him as a fighter but for a guy ranked #2 in the world more on history now rather than ability who cannot even fight a top 15 boxer? Just cannot appreciate that.

It's not a great fight for Cotto that we can agree on. Cotto should be making the biggest fights he can and this ain't it.[/QUOTE]




@El Kabong

Serious quote fail on this one, bro.

@Spicoli will be mortified.

Your point was made, though.





P.S. - Shit... now I screwed up too. No telling who said what.

[Spicoli]

You guys hear yourselves? Surprised how easy -trained experienced professionals- are dismissed Hey Hopkins is near 52 and I'm sure he could make 165 again..have a go! So many fighters fought into early 40's. Wolfe lost by knockout early in career, true story. But hey she beat her not once but twice in rematches. And she didn't need her big brother or sister to do it for her.

Well the conversation was typed sooooo ummm, no we didn't "hear" ourselves. Dude asked a question, I attempted to answer to the best of my abilities. Don't be offended at my answer to a hypothetical question.

For the record, I'm not defending Kirkland's choice as opponent. But how is this any different from any other fighter with a storied career wanting to milk what's left of it, and get out with maximum profit? The double standard with this guy continues, and probably will as he rides off into the sunset. I will say this: He may be fighting damaged goods now. But he got off to a fast start from the beginning of his career, and fought some very tough opposition throughout. I won't get into calling out other elite fighters active now.... but we all know how different careers stack up.

I think the unwillingness to walk the walk and catch weights seriously put me off Cotto. Always liked him as a fighter but for a guy ranked #2 in the world more on history now rather than ability who cannot even fight a top 15 boxer? Just cannot appreciate that.

It's not a great fight for Cotto that we can agree on. Cotto should be making the biggest fights he can and this ain't it.[/QUOTE] Wait. That's actually spot on and very well put!

This Spicoli fella knows his shat

@Hulk I'd trip over my jaw if Cotto v Charlo could happen. I'd have to favor much larger and fresher Charlo though and probably harsh fashion as it went late. Never underestimate depth of experience though. And Williams had a brief time where he was sneaking some short straight rights in on Charlo who can leave himself open.