What will Clinch-ko's legacy be?

[TitoFan]

SALTY



"The only thing I'd add is that to me, the main reason behind the excessive clinching and leaning his body on people was his huge fear of getting his fragile chin brushed by the wind of an opponent's punch."



Yeah as opposed to those heavyweights who just allow themselves to be hit flush over and over and over again.....yeah THOSE guys stick around in the sport, THEY make a name for themselves


Dude was going to be "the next big thing"....and what did I tell you? HE GETS HIT TOO FUCKING MUCH

Ah yes..........

Because as we all know those are the only two fucking choices:

1. Spend all 12 rounds flinching at every punch and using whatever means (legal or not) available to avoid the vapor trail of the opponent's punches, lest that chin shatter into a billion pieces. Fans be damned... I just want my check and to get the hell outta here. I'll clinch, maul, grapple, or throw a punch per decade as I did against the Gypsy King.

2. Put your chin out there (a la Mayorga) to be hit like a birthday piñata, so I can show everyone how macho I am.



Well, Bob....... which will it be?? Is it Door # 1? Or Door # 2?



Pleeeease..... that's beneath you, isn't it? Reducing every issue to either pitch black or lily white? Shame on you.

[El Kabong]

Ah yes..........

Because as we all know those are the only two fucking choices:

1. Spend all 12 rounds flinching at every punch and using whatever means (legal or not) available to avoid the vapor trail of the opponent's punches, lest that chin shatter into a billion pieces. Fans be damned... I just want my check and to get the hell outta here. I'll clinch, maul, grapple, or throw a punch per decade as I did against the Gypsy King.

2. Put your chin out there (a la Mayorga) to be hit like a birthday piñata, so I can show everyone how macho I am.



Well, Bob....... which will it be?? Is it Door # 1? Or Door # 2?



Pleeeease..... that's beneath you, isn't it? Reducing every issue to either pitch black or lily white? Shame on you.

What is the purpose of the sport of boxing TitoFan? Why is it called "The Sweet Science"? Even guys like Mike Tyson who were very aggressive in the ring always attempted to.....AVOID BEING HIT.

It doesn't matter what you look like when you win, the key is at the end of the fight you win, and therefore you look like a......WINNER....thank you for your participation in this debate

[TitoFan]

Ah yes..........

Because as we all know those are the only two fucking choices:

1. Spend all 12 rounds flinching at every punch and using whatever means (legal or not) available to avoid the vapor trail of the opponent's punches, lest that chin shatter into a billion pieces. Fans be damned... I just want my check and to get the hell outta here. I'll clinch, maul, grapple, or throw a punch per decade as I did against the Gypsy King.

2. Put your chin out there (a la Mayorga) to be hit like a birthday piñata, so I can show everyone how macho I am.



Well, Bob....... which will it be?? Is it Door # 1? Or Door # 2?



Pleeeease..... that's beneath you, isn't it? Reducing every issue to either pitch black or lily white? Shame on you.

What is the purpose of the sport of boxing TitoFan? Why is it called "The Sweet Science"? Even guys like Mike Tyson who were very aggressive in the ring always attempted to.....AVOID BEING HIT.

It doesn't matter what you look like when you win, the key is at the end of the fight you win, and therefore you look like a......WINNER....thank you for your participation in this debate

By comparing Wlad to Iron Mike you have just fallen flat on your face.

I'll indulge you. Mike attempted to AVOID BEING HIT while still managing to make a fight out of it. Not by clinching, not by mauling, not by having a deer in the headlights look whenever a flurry came at him.... but by being AGGRESSIVE HIMSELF, which by the way, is the REAL purpose of the sport.

I'll give you a short multiple choice quiz. The purpose of the sport of boxing is:

a) To hit the other guy.
b) To avoid getting hit.


You can only choose one answer.
What did you say?

WRONG. It's to hit the other guy. If you can do so while avoiding getting hit... all the more power to you. But if all you've done the entire fight is avoid getting hit..... guess what. YOU FUCKING LOST!!!

Besides, there's another sport more suited for that. It's called Dancing with the Stars.

It's amazing that you can sit there and.... with a straight face..... defend a guy who broke all kinds of world records for inactivity during his stinker of a fight versus the Gypsy King. But that's what being a blind fan does to a guy.

You're welcome.

[El Kabong]

I'm not comparing Wlad and Tyson, I used Mike Tyson as an example that the SPORT (the entire sport, all of it, from the shoes to the gum shield) is about HITTING and not being hit in return.


That is Boxing 101 and since you have failed.... repeatedly to comprehend that, I'm afraid I will have to hold you back a year.

[TitoFan]

Ah yes..... Boxing 101. Here's what Wlad got out of the course:

the SPORT (the entire sport, all of it, from the shoes to the gum shield) is about HITTING and not being hit in return.

[TitoFan]

Punches landed by Wlad during the fight: 139
Clinches initiated by Wlad during the fight: over 180


But you go ahead and show us pictures of Magomed in order to make your asinine point.

[El Kabong]

Punches landed by Wlad during the fight: 139
Clinches initiated by Wlad during the fight: over 180


But you go ahead and show us pictures of Magomed in order to make your asinine point.

The Ref did what? The Ref called what?


Nothing? Nothing? Oh ok, thanks for answering your own question



Disturbed by where Mago is in life right now? Well perhaps he should have been......AVOIDING PUNCHES....but I digress I mean look at Riddick Bowe, he's doing great. Joe Frazier lost an eye boxing, Ali got Parkinson's from getting smacked in the head too often, but yes, please tell me more about their bravery in the ring and how in their lives AFTER boxing getting punched in the head helped them deal with life.


OOOOH OOOOH I want CTE!!!!!! I mean I could be an average boxer but if I get CTE at least I can be like my heroes!

[TitoFan]

Matter of fact, is it too late to change my vote from "Good HW champ" to "Overrated clinching steroid head"?

[vidgil]

Punches landed by Wlad during the fight: 139
Clinches initiated by Wlad during the fight: over 180

More clinches than punches landed? That's incredible!

So that's average 15 clinches a round, 5 a minute... every 12 seconds he's grabbing for a clinch!

And we wonder why nobody cared about the HW division during his run!