Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds
Bilbo when I referenced that man is bigger stronger faster, more stamina, lives longer, lives in all environments etc. No to mention the social and mental evolution to move from a hunter gatherer society to a agricultural...serf system...capitalism etc. Plus a refining of economic(barter to banking), Religious(poly->monotheistic), Language systems etc etc. You spoke of ancient man have denser bones, possibly being bigger and living much longer(i didn't feel like finding and quoting the post call me lazy). Lets just work from the last 4000 years. Well does this not suggest a gradual evolution of man (albeit not on a genetic level)? I've just always felt there was much more to Darwins theory than the monkey to man aspect. That part just happens to be the sexiest.
The neandertals had denser bones and a higher cranial capacity to ourselves, meaning they were more athletic and more intelligent.

However not all ancient humans display this.

The fact is that lifespan, size, health etc are entirely determined by enviromental factors and have nothing to do with evolution. In our current western world we enjoy an extremely hige standard of living, having a diet rich in all available nutrients, good living conditions, sanitation, advanced medical care etc.

Now go and visit some pygmy tribe in the middle of the Amazon and you'll see things are completely different. They are not nearly so strong, large and healthy, nor enjoy the same lifespan! It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with evolution.

Regarding social and philosophical evolution it is true we have come a long way since our humble beginnings and our knowledge has vastly improved but you have to examine why and how.

It is because we are intelligent beings, endowed with consciousness and able to reason and design. All of our improvements have come about precisely because intelligent minds have contemplated on such things and then taken action to improve them.

This again supports a creationist view of intelligent design in the universe but evolutionists do not believe that there is any intelligence or personality at work in nature.

Let me ask you this? could mankind have developed different languages, invent things and become more advanced in every possible way without an intelligent mind, planning, design and purpose?

I think you will agree the answer is no, we merely have to look at the animal kingdom to see that.

Therfore it is an absurdity to demonstrate how random chance and mutation can create similar patterns to what we can achieve using our collective intelligence and design, and then to just remove the intelligence and design factors.

Humans can achieve great things precisely and soley through our intelligence, to suggest nature achieves the same thing without intelligence, a plan or a goal is plain ridiculous.