The Politically Correct Thread

[TitoFan]

We could try this.....

[TitoFan]

Or this...

[vidgil]

Another theory I have which you can feel free to disagree with but I believe wholeheartedly. I think a lot of this ultra PC, SJW nonsense comes from a group where the majority of the people have had either no or very superficial relationships with minorities. Most seem to be middle-to-upper class white people who lived in very sheltered, white-washed areas all their lives.

If you grew up in a racially diverse area like I did in Grand Rapids/Detroit, and you grew up with other races your whole life, I don't think you have the same stick up your ass. Because real talk, especially among dudes, is NOT PC! Boys and men say a lot of repugnant shit when we're around each other. So many times I was the only (or one of the only) white people in a room at a given time and got comedy roasted with "small dick" white jokes I also remember responding with things that would make Donald Sterling blush. But it was all fun between guys and you bond by saying harsh jokes that you don't really mean.

So when I see these upper-class white college students talking about black people like they're poor delicate flowers that need to be protected with PC culture, I immediately know that they never had any true relationship with any black people. Black people don't need a bunch of corny white 20-somethings to protect them, they can handle themselves.

[TitoFan]

Another theory I have which you can feel free to disagree with but I believe wholeheartedly. I think a lot of this ultra PC, SJW nonsense comes from a group where the majority of the people have had either no or very superficial relationships with minorities. Most seem to be middle-to-upper class white people who lived in very sheltered, white-washed areas all their lives.

If you grew up in a racially diverse area like I did in Grand Rapids/Detroit, and you grew up with other races your whole life, I don't think you have the same stick up your ass. Because real talk, especially among dudes, is NOT PC! Boys and men say a lot of repugnant shit when we're around each other. So many times I was the only (or one of the only) white people in a room at a given time and got comedy roasted with "small dick" white jokes I also remember responding with things that would make Donald Sterling blush. But it was all fun between guys and you bond by saying harsh jokes that you don't really mean.

So when I see these upper-class white college students talking about black people like they're poor delicate flowers that need to be protected with PC culture, I immediately know that they never had any true relationship with any black people. Black people don't need a bunch of corny white 20-somethings to protect them, they can handle themselves.

That's a tremendously good point, Vidgil... thanks for the post. Unfortunately, you went past four words and thus our colleague Batman will begin reading and lose interest.

Seriously though, it's a good point. Diversity is the answer to all these uptight racial tensions. It brings down walls of ignorance and fear. If money weren't an issue, I'd people just need to travel more. Too many people are born, grow up, get married, raise children, and die in the same town or neighborhood. They never experience other races and/or cultures, and thus are ignorant of others. Their world is small and narrow. But I would throw the common sense disclaimer in there too. Just because you and your buddies... or me and my own buddies... can get together and be downright crude to each other... it doesn't mean we can or should automatically carry that way of being to all other situations and/or people. Example, maybe me and my buddies get together and the gay jokes go on and on. But that doesn't make me homophobic, nor would I dare hurt a gay person's feelings by calling them a hurtful name or being otherwise disparaging toward them. You have to choose the appropriate time and place for everything.

[vidgil]

Agreed 100% and of course context is everything! I wouldn't say the same things that I say around black friends to black strangers... I'd get my head caved in! Or say it publicly... I'd certainly be fired!

I think the big thing with ultra PC is they disregard context. They'll take a private conversation between two people and act like it's a news presentation! They believe there's no room whatsoever for racy, inappropriate jokes... and that's simply not true!

They act as though if I make a sexist, racist, homophobic, etc joke with my friends in a private setting, my words enter the atmosphere, pollute the air and cause someone to rape a woman or commit a hate crime. It's so silly!

[TitoFan]

Agreed 100% and of course context is everything! I wouldn't say the same things that I say around black friends to black strangers... I'd get my head caved in! Or say it publicly... I'd certainly be fired!

I think the big thing with ultra PC is they disregard context. They'll take a private conversation between two people and act like it's a news presentation! They believe there's no room whatsoever for racy, inappropriate jokes... and that's simply not true!

They act as though if I make a sexist, racist, homophobic, etc joke with my friends in a private setting, my words enter the atmosphere, pollute the air and cause someone to rape a woman or commit a hate crime. It's so silly!

I absolutely LOVE stand-up comedy, and that art form would die if it were up to the PC police. Yeah, I agree with you whole-heartedly. Unfortunately, and like I've said before, it's people (usually with short supplies of common sense) that tend to flock to the extremes of any issue. It's pitch black, or lily white.... nothing in between.

[Batman]

Another theory I have which you can feel free to disagree with but I believe wholeheartedly. I think a lot of this ultra PC, SJW nonsense comes from a group where the majority of the people have had either no or very superficial relationships with minorities. Most seem to be middle-to-upper class white people who lived in very sheltered, white-washed areas all their lives.

If you grew up in a racially diverse area like I did in Grand Rapids/Detroit, and you grew up with other races your whole life, I don't think you have the same stick up your ass. Because real talk, especially among dudes, is NOT PC! Boys and men say a lot of repugnant shit when we're around each other. So many times I was the only (or one of the only) white people in a room at a given time and got comedy roasted with "small dick" white jokes I also remember responding with things that would make Donald Sterling blush. But it was all fun between guys and you bond by saying harsh jokes that you don't really mean.

So when I see these upper-class white college students talking about black people like they're poor delicate flowers that need to be protected with PC culture, I immediately know that they never had any true relationship with any black people. Black people don't need a bunch of corny white 20-somethings to protect them, they can handle themselves.

That's a tremendously good point, Vidgil... thanks for the post. Unfortunately, you went past four words and thus our colleague Batman will begin reading and lose interest.

Oh no you are wrong there, I read his post in its entirety and a very good post it was too.

Unfortunately I didn't make it past the first paragraph of your reply so I have no idea what your post was saying.

[TitoFan]

Another theory I have which you can feel free to disagree with but I believe wholeheartedly. I think a lot of this ultra PC, SJW nonsense comes from a group where the majority of the people have had either no or very superficial relationships with minorities. Most seem to be middle-to-upper class white people who lived in very sheltered, white-washed areas all their lives.

If you grew up in a racially diverse area like I did in Grand Rapids/Detroit, and you grew up with other races your whole life, I don't think you have the same stick up your ass. Because real talk, especially among dudes, is NOT PC! Boys and men say a lot of repugnant shit when we're around each other. So many times I was the only (or one of the only) white people in a room at a given time and got comedy roasted with "small dick" white jokes I also remember responding with things that would make Donald Sterling blush. But it was all fun between guys and you bond by saying harsh jokes that you don't really mean.

So when I see these upper-class white college students talking about black people like they're poor delicate flowers that need to be protected with PC culture, I immediately know that they never had any true relationship with any black people. Black people don't need a bunch of corny white 20-somethings to protect them, they can handle themselves.

That's a tremendously good point, Vidgil... thanks for the post. Unfortunately, you went past four words and thus our colleague Batman will begin reading and lose interest.

Oh no you are wrong there, I read his post in its entirety and a very good post it was too.

Unfortunately I didn't make it past the first paragraph of your reply so I have no idea what your post was saying.

A lot of words for you, Batman... try not to get winded.

Still, I'm anxiously awaiting your response to the OP. You know how much I value your views.

[Batman]

I may have a look tomorrow, I'll be sure to let you know as soon as I get around to it